anonymous wrote : It will time out.

Thanks Christian and Amitev -- that does seem to be the intent. However it 
doesn't match what I observe.  Here's the order of play: 

User visits WidgetList.xhtml -- this does a join="true" - perhaps creating a 
new conversation, perhaps joining an existing one.

User clicks a link to end up in WidgetEdit.xhtml -- this also does a 
join="true" and reuses the existing conversation. Here we're viewing Widget#1. 
OK so far.  

User navigates directly back to WidgetList.xhtml via a menu link.  (no 
end-conversation).

User clicks "Create Widget" button, ending up back in WidgetEdit.xhtml, but 
since we've used join="true", we're still in the long running conversation and 
reuse the old WidgetHome, which is holding onto the Widget#1.  Instead of a 
"new" widget, we're editing an old one.  

I've tried marking the Create Widget button as propagation="none" and 
propagation="end", but I still see the bad behavior (create widget edits the 
already existing Widget#1).  I've tried setting join="false, nested="true" - 
that doesnt work (the old Home instance is still reused). I can't find a way to 
avoid it.

Steve


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