ebXML ("by" SUN) now officially uses SOAP ("by" MS) as its transport. So,
soap can be used as workflow/rule engine for B2B/EAI stuff.
note above "by" is obviously simpified, and the point is they are one
platform now.
The real killer app for soap is a workflow engine. Somebody take a lead?
Kai
"Vinay Menon"
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05/04/2001 05:38 PM
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Hi,
I've been playing around with XML-RPC and SOAP for a while and think
they are fairly decent in terms of the things they open up. But my
apprehensions using XML have been - XML parsing is still non-trivial and
resource intensive, they increase the amount of stuff passed over the wire
and finally I really need to justify to myself the usefulness of an RPC
mechanism!
Probably for B2B scenarios - YES. For integrating between disparate
systems - YES. But to use it indiscriminately would be expensive. Most
often the payload proves much smaller than the tags! EJBs based around an
XML - RPC mechanism? Why? Where would you want to have that? Since the
underlying data format is XML [i.e. Strings] we would need to go about
creating objects and stuff from them and that is also expensive. I really
can't see where you'd want to plug in an XML rpc mechanism into the EJB
stuff. But as I said there might be some situations where you actually
might want to look at SOAP as an option.
My views. Your thoughts?
Vinay
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From: fractals
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:27 AM
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Hi,
This is just to say that I'm surprised not having read more about SOAP on
this list. I read a little quite a while ago about this simple yet amazing
technology, but I thought it was some kind of M$ thing and so got
disinterested by it. Now that I've looked it from a bit closer, I think it
really is a great thing ! Not only because it lets Java applications talk
to
all other platforms and languages, but also because of its capability to
deploy web applications that behave as services (yeah, I know this is M$
goo, but the word say it best). Apparently there's so little interest in
this technology from the EJB community that the ZOAP project seems to be
dead, and that the Apache SOAP team seems to be marginally interested in
developing EJB support (they *did* work on that, but in my own short
experience it works on windows and not on linux !!!).
Because of the very little overhead associated with this kind of
invocation
(AFAIK), I think it could even be the default method for J2EE clients
accessing remote EJB's, but that's just an idea...
Somebody thinking like me ???
Candide
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