You may not be able to use it indirectly, but what about indirectly? 
Manipulate the transaction through a session bean?
You may have to repeat this for a few entity beans though....

--- Phan Anh Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are at design time for a real system.  Your suggestion "don't use
> it" is
> that due to JBOSS specific implementation issues or is it  a
> universal
> design advice?
> 
> Do you have a copy of Vlada talk?  Thanks.
> 
> Anh
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "marc fleury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:24 AM
> Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] Obtaining a transaction from outside JBoss
> in
> another VM Plan
> 
> 
> > yes anatoly ackerman finished an integration of Tyrex (real DTM) in
> JBoss.
> >
> > We truly truly discourage the use of DTx (even Vlada matena had a
> full
> talk
> > on that). So my question is "are you at design time" (in which case
> don't
> > use it) or is this "real life".
> >
> > marcf
> >
> > |-----Original Message-----
> > |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phan
> Anh
> > |Tran
> > |Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:11 AM
> > |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > |Subject: [JBoss-user] Obtaining a transaction from outside JBoss
> in
> > |another VM Plan
> > |
> > |
> > |When does JBOSS plan to support the obtaining and using a
> transaction
> from
> > |another VM?  2.2.3?  2.3?  Anytime in the near future?
> > |
> > |[App/VM1]   <-> [EJB1,EJB2,.../JBOSS/VM2]
> > |
> > |App needs to setup and control the transactions, so in essence, my
> > |App needs
> > |to be able to obtain a UserTransaction via JNDI from a separate
> VM.  I
> > |believe this feature is not supported right now, but I would like
> to
> > |understand when the feature is planned to be incorporated into
> JBOSS?
> > |Thanks.
> > |
> > |Anh
> > |
> > |
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