On 2002.01.09 17:33:15 -0500 Paul McLachlan wrote:
> A persistence mapping on top of cci spi is what is needed for sure.
> CAstor would ensure it's future by conforming to jca in my opinion.

I agree, although I'm not entirely sure I understand what you are
suggesting.  The JDO spec has a rather confused view of what the jca spec
says (I'd guess 70% of the specific feature references are wrong in some
detail) but the basic idea they have is that a jdo implementation must
expose the spi interfaces if it wishes to be useable in an app server.  I
thought Castor might be improved by changing its jdbc access to be to a
jca-wrapped jdbc driver, thus making it easy to expose the spi interfaces.

I'm not sure of the value of trying to expose cci outside of jdo.  The
jdo-style object navigation is more java-like and easier to use than cci.  

I think the use of cci is in supporting either a jdo implementation or cmp2
beans.  IMHO cmp2 is kind of similar to jdo access.  cmp2 has (at least in
jboss) easily extensible metaprogramming interfaces (the spec includes
transaction and security support for instance) whereas jdo handles
inheritance and polymorphism better.

Anyway, just my $0.02

david jencks
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Jencks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2002 12:51 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Updating CastorJDO plugin for 2.4.4
> > 
> > 
> > On 2002.01.09 01:14:28 -0500 Matthew Baird wrote:
> > > any plans on using JCA to connect Castor JDO into JBoss?
> > 
> > Both the jdo spec and I think the way to do this is to have 
> > the jdo layer
> > act as a cache on top of a resource adapter, or to have the 
> > jca interfaces
> > exposed from the "middle" of the jdo implementation with an additional
> > Synchronization to the cache layer to make sure it is 
> > persisted before the
> > tx commits.  However when I enquired at Castor whether they had any
> > interest in supporting this I was told that Castor had no 
> > interest in spec
> > compliance.
> > 
> > Although I suspect this was mostly due to lack of knowledge 
> > about the jca
> > spec, it wasn't exactly encouraging.  I may try again when I 
> > am done with
> > my current project.
> > 
> > david jencks
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Jencks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:05 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Updating CastorJDO plugin for 2.4.4
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think cvsroot/jboss/contrib/castorjdo never got tagged with
> > > Branch_2_4_4
> > > when Jason did the reorganization of the build system.  I suspect it
> > > should
> > > be, there are other changes likely to happen in
> > > cvsroot/jboss/contrib/varia.  Jason is probably the only 
> > one to know for
> > > sure...
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