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>Von: David Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2002 15:10
>An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [JBoss-user] IllegalArgumentException from jboss.net
to S LSB

>Because most site administrators I've dealt with will not allow RMI 
>through their firewall.  However, they're just about always okay with 
>HTTP (since chances are they've already got that going and are familiar 
>with it).  So if you need to give remote access via HTTP to clients you 
>know are java, this works.  I know it doesn't work for non-java clients 
>but it does solve a very common problem.

That is a necessary, but not sufficient reason to jump on SOAP. You could
use
a jrmp-http-tunnel alternatively. It becomes sufficient when you state that
you like to
avoid  persistent http sessions in order to minimize vulnerability of the
connections.
 
>Now, I would love to use something that can handle complex object graphs 
>that contain custom objets that further do not adhere completely to the 
>JavaBeans spec - but I haven't found anything.  Point me at a 
>Serializer/Deserializer combo that does this (and that will work with 
>both Java and M$ clients), and I'll jump all over it.

But this is the idea of having serializer/deserializer factory. You will not
be able to
write a single piece of code (or rather: two classes!) that will bridge all
of your runtime 
environments and if there would be, I�m surely not the one to maintain it. 

Instead have special-purpose serializers for special-purpose classes/schemas
and plug them 
together to provide complexity.

Axis does the graph thing for you. Axis also provides a lot of features when
it comes to present
the resulting meta-data in wsdl. The beanserializer does some stuff good,
others bad - I�m currently
Subclassing it to get it running smoothly with entity beans. 

But the BeanSerializer is not everything and for all purposes. E.g., I�m
also investigating 
special-purpose serializers that let java objects look like Ado DataSets. If
it was, we would be back
at the good old java.io.ObjectxxxStream and that is like I perceive the
java.beans.XML stuff, too. 

If there is enough interest in using Jboss.net just for tunneling purposes,
you can surely add
the almighty Object->xsd:binary xsd:binary->Object pair to the codebase. But
that is not quite
how I perceive Web Services to be fruitful.
  

CGJ




   


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