It is part of the entity bean serialization framework. 

I investigate it, because it is extremely untrivial to trick the Axis-Wsdl
and serialized structures to look like ADO-streams. 

For example, I have to put "dotNet" flags everywhere in Jboss.net that
behave differently (namespace resolution, nullable values, etc) depending on
whether a .net client is calling in to server or not. 

For example, you must be able to define non-recursive "views" via
appropriate XML-Schema onto the entity-bean model to result in
.net-processible structures. 

This is not
primarily supported by axis with its one-java-class-one-xml-type approach
everywhere.

So it is still research and I am not sure whether or when
it will result in productive, stable code afterwards that I can easily
integrate with the jboss.net head revision.

CGJ

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> I´m also investigating special-purpose serializers that let java 
> objects
look like Ado DataSets
This would solve some big problems for me.  I don't see it listed as a task
on SF.  What do you mean "investigating?"


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> From: Jung , Dr. Christoph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> >Von: David Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2002 15:10
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> 
> >Because most site administrators I've dealt with will not allow RMI
> >through their firewall.  However, they're just about always 
> okay with
> >HTTP (since chances are they've already got that going and
> are familiar
> >with it).  So if you need to give remote access via HTTP to
> clients you
> >know are java, this works.  I know it doesn't work for
> non-java clients
> >but it does solve a very common problem.
> 
> That is a necessary, but not sufficient reason to jump on
> SOAP. You could
> use
> a jrmp-http-tunnel alternatively. It becomes sufficient when 
> you state that
> you like to
> avoid  persistent http sessions in order to minimize 
> vulnerability of the
> connections.
>  
> >Now, I would love to use something that can handle complex
> object graphs
> >that contain custom objets that further do not adhere
> completely to the
> >JavaBeans spec - but I haven't found anything.  Point me at a
> >Serializer/Deserializer combo that does this (and that will 
> work with
> >both Java and M$ clients), and I'll jump all over it.
> 
> But this is the idea of having serializer/deserializer
> factory. You will not
> be able to
> write a single piece of code (or rather: two classes!) that 
> will bridge all
> of your runtime 
> environments and if there would be, I´m surely not the one to 
> maintain it. 
> 
> Instead have special-purpose serializers for special-purpose
> classes/schemas
> and plug them 
> together to provide complexity.
> 
> Axis does the graph thing for you. Axis also provides a lot
> of features when
> it comes to present
> the resulting meta-data in wsdl. The beanserializer does some 
> stuff good,
> others bad - I´m currently
> Subclassing it to get it running smoothly with entity beans. 
> 
> But the BeanSerializer is not everything and for all
> purposes. E.g., I´m
> also investigating 
> special-purpose serializers that let java objects look like 
> Ado DataSets. If
> it was, we would be back
> at the good old java.io.ObjectxxxStream and that is like I 
> perceive the
> java.beans.XML stuff, too. 
> 
> If there is enough interest in using Jboss.net just for
> tunneling purposes,
> you can surely add
> the almighty Object->xsd:binary xsd:binary->Object pair to 
> the codebase. But
> that is not quite
> how I perceive Web Services to be fruitful.
>   
> 
> CGJ
> 
> 
> 
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