David,

sounds spot on - thanks a heap for the suggestion - as James pointed out, as
usual - thanks for the suggestion!

cheers
dim

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Jencks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Launching Swing Applications from JBoss 3.0.0


> I'd think you could have a tiny login app on the users machine that logged
> them into the central server, and based on their user info sent back the
> url of the appropriate app to deploy on the local jboss.  The tiny app
then
> calls MainDeployer.deploy of the url it just got, presto.  Administration
> of who gets what is then centralized, presumably with the security info.
> There might be a simpler way to do this, but this seems to me as if it
> should work.
>
> david jencks
>
> On 2002.08.16 20:27:58 -0400 Dmitri Colebatch wrote:
> > hey all,
> >
> > I'm very interested in this thread - mainly because I've just started a
> > contract in exactly that sort of situation.
> >
> > to be honest, I'm not exactly sure how many users there are, but I
> > believe its ~100 or so.
> >
> > atm there is a logon script on all the machines that copies the
> > "appropriate" version of the application to the client when the user
logs
> > on (windows boxes).
> >
> > the hurdle I face atm, is that the existing application has different
> > versions deployed at a time - ie. some users might have version 1.87 and
> > some might have 1.86 - basically the more forgiving users will get the
> > new version first - sort of as a beta test.
> >
> > now - to me, the idea of having jboss running locally on every machine,
> > and deploying the application via filesystem/http would make
distribution
> > a piece of cake.  but the manager likes the current situation in that he
> > can change the batch script and immediately put user A on one version
and
> > user B on another.
> >
> > anyone have any thoughts about how you might go about doing that?
> > (thinking aloud)  I suppose he could remotely log onto the user's JBoss
> > 'server' and using the JMX console undeploy the old version and redeploy
> > the new - but you couldn't do that by hand for all of them, there would
> > need to be some sort of automation.
> >
> > I suppose I really should have a read of the jboss farm stuff that has
> > been done.... but wanted to share my situation for input/feedback.
> >
> > cheers
> > dim
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Greg Turner
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 5:03 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Launching Swing Applications from JBoss
3.0.0
> >
> >
> >   If you were in a large corp and given the task of writing a Swing app
> > that was to be deployed on some 200 PCs in the corp, and you had to
> > support configurations and updates to all those 200 PCs, JBoss would be
> > the way to go.  All 200 PCs could deploy the Swing app from a central
> > server.  All PCs could deploy updates from the central server.  And you
> > could manage configuration of all apps from your machine via the
> > jmx-console.  All that is doable by having JBoss be the basis for the
> > Swing app.
> >   Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >     An intresting read but I fail to see how this is usefull in all but
> > the
> >     most trival example. When a JFrame starts it uses the DISPLAY
> > enviroment
> >     variable (UNIX systems) to determine where to display it. So if I am
> >     running a local JBOSS container on my system then it would be good
> > for
> >     rapid protyping but for the field?
> >     I have not had alot of sleep this week, please enlighten me on other
> >     uses for this or if I am way off base.
> >
> >     On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 15:17, Dimitri Pissarenko wrote:
> >     > Hello!
> >     >
> >     > I've coded a very simple example of how one can launch a Swing
> >     > application with a Jboss Mbean.
> >     >
> >     > If someone is interested, look at
> >     > http://www.geocities.com/dapissarenko/jboss_swing.html
> >     >
> >     > Regards
> >     >
> >     > Dimitri Pissarenko
> >     >
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> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>hey all,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I'm very interested in this
thread -
> > mainly
> > because I've just started a contract in exactly that sort of
> > situation.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>to be honest, I'm not exactly sure
> > how many
> > users there are, but I believe its ~100 or so.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>atm there is a logon script on all
> > the
> > machines that copies the "appropriate" version of the application to the
> > client
> > when the user logs on (windows boxes).</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>the hurdle I face atm, is that the
> > existing
> > application has different versions deployed at a time - ie. some users
> > might
> > have version 1.87 and some might have 1.86 - basically the more
forgiving
> > users
> > will get the new version first - sort of as a beta test.&nbsp;
> > </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>now - to me, the idea of having
> > jboss
> > running locally on every machine, and deploying the application via
> > filesystem/http would make distribution a piece of cake.&nbsp; but the
> > manager
> > likes the current situation in that he can change the batch script and
> > immediately put user A on one version and user B on
another.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>anyone have any thoughts about how
> > you
> > might go about doing that?&nbsp; (thinking aloud)&nbsp; I suppose he
> > could
> > remotely log onto the user's JBoss 'server' and using the JMX console
> > undeploy
> > the old version and redeploy the new - but you couldn't do that by hand
> > for all
> > of them, there would need to be some sort of automation.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I suppose I really should have a
> > read of
> > the jboss farm stuff that has been done.... but wanted to share my
> > situation for
> > input/feedback.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>cheers</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>dim </FONT></DIV>
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> >   <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> >   <DIV
> >   style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
> > black"><B>From:</B>
> >   <A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>Greg Turner</A> </DIV>
> >   <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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> >
> >   </DIV>
> >   <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 17, 2002
> > 5:03
> >   AM</DIV>
> >   <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JBoss-user]
> > Launching Swing
> >   Applications from JBoss 3.0.0</DIV>
> >   <DIV><BR></DIV>If you were in a large corp and given the task of
> > writing a
> >   Swing app that was to be deployed on some 200 PCs in the corp, and you
> > had to
> >   support configurations and updates to all those 200 PCs, JBoss would
be
> > the
> >   way to go.&nbsp; All 200 PCs could deploy the Swing app from a central
> >   server.&nbsp; All PCs could deploy updates from the central
> > server.&nbsp; And
> >   you could manage configuration of all apps from your machine via the
> >   jmx-console.&nbsp; All that is doable by having JBoss be the basis for
> > the
> >   Swing app.
> >   <P>Dave Smith wrote:
> >   <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">An intresting read but I fail to see how this
> > is
> >     usefull in all but the <BR>most trival example. When a JFrame starts
> > it uses
> >     the DISPLAY enviroment <BR>variable (UNIX systems) to determine
where
> > to
> >     display it. So if I am <BR>running a local JBOSS container on my
> > system then
> >     it would be good for <BR>rapid protyping but for the field?
> >     <P>I have not had alot of sleep this week, please enlighten me on
> > other
> >     <BR>uses for this or if I am way off base.
> >     <P>On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 15:17, Dimitri Pissarenko wrote: <BR>&gt;
> > Hello!
> >     <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I've coded a very simple example of how one can
> > launch a
> >     Swing <BR>&gt; application with a Jboss Mbean. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; If
> > someone
> >     is interested, look at <BR>&gt; <A
> >
href="http://www.geocities.com/dapissarenko/jboss_swing.html";>http://www.geo
cities.com/dapissarenko/jboss_swing.html</A>
> >
> >     <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Regards <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dimitri Pissarenko
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