Actually, on inspecting the documentation of Apache 1.3, you are correct
(please ignore my last email).

"This module implements a proxy/cache for Apache. It implements proxying
capability for FTP, CONNECT (for SSL), HTTP/0.9, HTTP/1.0, and (as of Apache
1.3.23) HTTP/1.1. The module can be configured to connect to other proxy
modules for these and other protocols.
This module was experimental in Apache 1.1.x. As of Apache 1.2, mod_proxy
stability is greatly improved.

Warning: Do not enable proxying with ProxyRequests until you have secured
your server. Open proxy servers are dangerous both to your network and to
the Internet at large."



Tom Veldhouse



----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Apache 1.3 and JBOSS 3.0.2 (w/tomcat or w/jetty)


> mod_proxy definitely supports HTTP/1.1 (see
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_proxy.html).  Does this imply
that
> it also supports keep-alives?
>
> Also, with mod_rewrite, we have configured apache to serve up static
content
> even within password-protected portions of the web-app.  With mod_jk, it
> always does authentication checks.  I'm not sure how much performance that
> buys us, but it is something.
>
> Another config that may affect these numbers: the default apache ssl
config
> includes the following:
> SetEnvIf User-Agent ".*MSIE.*" \
>          nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown \
>          downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0
>
> This forces all access from MS IE via https to downgrade to http/1.0.  I
> have played around with this, and sure enough, without this, IE
periodically
> shows blank pages while browsing secure pages.  This configuration was in
> place for both mod_jk and mod_proxy tests.
>
> Regardless, the numbers we have obtained speak very clearly to us.  Please
> respond if you find that your benchmarks show something else - I would
love
> to make my site go faster!
>
> In the words of Mr. Schaefer: Have Fun!
>
> -Larry
>
> > I think that benchmarking that shows mod_proxy as faster than mod_jk
> > is highly suspect.
> >
> > While mod_jk does faff about a lot -  changing strings into single
> > bytes and then back again, mod_proxy does not use persistent connectons
> and must
> > reestablish a TCP/IP connection for each request.
> >
> > I would only expect mod_proxy to be faster if the load presented was
> > HTTP/1.0 or not kept-alive HTTP/1.1
> >
> > If mod_proxy does now support HTTP/1.1 persistent connections, then that
> > is very good news as it is a much better way to forward requests (use
the
> > protocol rather than invent a new one!).
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Larry Sanderson wrote:
> > > These are consistant with our results.  We use mod_proxy and
mod_rewrite
> in
> > > production becaus it has given us a consistent performance edge over
the
> > > alternatives (mod_jk, no apache, etc...).  Unfortunaty, last I
checked,
> Tux
> > > does not support ssl, so that was not an option for us.
> > >
> > > -Larry
> > >
> > >
> > >>As of Apache 1.3.23 I think, Apache supports HTTP/1.1 compliance in
it's
> > >>mod_proxy mechanism, meaning it can take advantage of persistent
> > >>connections. That goes for the 2.x series of Apache as well.
> > >>
> > >>Using Apache 1.3.26, JBoss 2.4.4 and several different JSP/Servlet
> engines
> > >>(Tomcat 3.2.4, Jetty 3.0,3.1, and Resin 2.0.5) I performed many load
> tests
> > >>using LoadRunner against the above configurations.  However, for each
> > >>scenario, I tested once using mod_jk w/ ajp13 connector and a second
> time
> > >>using mod_rewrite and mod_proxy passing off to the http listener of
> > >
> > > whatever
> > >
> > >>jsp/servlet engine that was running.  In _every_ example, the use of
> > >>mod_rewrite and mod_proxy together improved performance over using
> > >>mod_jk/ajp13.  And this is in an application that uses Struts heavily.
I
> > >
> > > am
> > >
> > >>currently setting up a configuration with Tomcat 4.0.3 so I can try
> > >
> > > testing
> > >
> > >>with mod_webapp and see how it performs.
> > >>
> > >>I then found even better performance on Linux, by using the TUX kernel
> web
> > >>server in place of Apache and passing on all non-static requests on to
> the
> > >>specific jsp/servlet container being used at the time.
> > >>
> > >>As a result, I would have to say that my testing reveals that using
the
> > >>latest Apaches with mod_proxy will out perform the mod_jk scenarios.
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Apache 1.3 and JBOSS 3.0.2 (w/tomcat or
> w/jetty)
> > >>Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:48:32 -0500
> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >>This link points to an area that really applies to Apache2 and mod_jk2
> (or
> > >>proxy which has disadvantages).  I was under the impression it (Jetty)
> > >
> > > would
> > >
> > >>work with mod_jk and Apache 1.3.
> > >>
> > >>J. Michael Savage
> > >>Datastream Development
> > >>
> > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>(800) 955-6775 x7646
> > >>
> > >>
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