Quoting "Jung , Dr. Christoph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

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> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: Ed Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >Gesendet: Samstag, 29. März 2003 03:59
> >An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Betreff: RE: [JBoss-user] JBoss: Not Ready For Prime Time
> 
> >Lastly, I gave up on using the embedded version of Axis with JBoss. I found
> it odd that I had to 
> >compile the source just to get it working when everything else worked "out
> of the box." And then 
> >getting to the Axis console was problematic.
> 
> Now that is the point where I have to stand up. Where was your bug report?
> Where was your contribution in the form of feature requests, fixes, faq
> points such that other users of jboss (like you know refrain to be one of
> those) who do not like hot-deployment can access the axis console directly?
> I didn´t even know your name until this ugly posting. 


You consider it ugly, I consider it facts.

I asked on this list why Axis wasn't working and I got nothing. I went to the JBoss 
forums where I found out you had to get the source and recompile in order to get it 
working.

I didn't have to do anything like that for Orion, WebSphere, the defunct Borland 
offering, or WebLogic.

...

> I find your destructive stance of leaning back and expecting everything to
> run out of the box (without compilation) extremely odd. 

I don't find it odd at all.

I used Ant right out of the box, as I did Struts, Tomcat, Apache, JUnit....


> It will not work
> except with open source projects sponsored by IBM and throwing a lot of
> money and resources into it. Linux would have died with people like yours
> (and how often have I compiled that kernel, I can tell you). 
> 
> So, my conclusion is that you are not ready for JBoss and you have not the
> slightest idea of team work and psychology. 

I'm doing this work on my limited spare time. If I had the time to contribute, I 
would. As it stands, I don't see JBoss as being a production ready tool.

> 
> CGJ
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