Interesting information.  Do you have any links or further info on the IBM
parser?

-Dustin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] JBoss-Net performance issues
> 
> 
> I believe that one of the reasons .Net continues to do
> so well in WebServices performance is that their XML
> parser is reportedly anywhere from 4 to 20 times
> faster than any Java based parsers. I had heard that
> eBay has XML generated on the back end Java systems
> translated on NT boxes using a JNI wrapped MS XML
> parser. (Would be nice to find an equivalent on
> Sourceforge !!)
> 
> In order to address this disparity, I hope we will
> start to see lines of technology like HotSpot being
> used to reach native parsing performance. IBM is
> supposedly writing dynamic XLST down to native JITs.
> 
> On Microsoft's side, they still seem to be a little
> disappointed with the XML parsing performance, so they
> are payloading binary data in the SOAP envelopes in
> heir high performance systems. Interesting approach,
> but what's the point ? They seem to have gone full
> circle and come back to IIOP.
> 
> //Nicholas
> 
> --- Jon Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That is an interesting set of results, although not
> > surprising. As Bill
> > said, the greatest problem with Web services is that
> > you take the hit for
> > working with XML. There are many articles that
> > discuss this, of which I
> > include this one:
> >
> http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,28
> 36041,00.htm
> > l
> > 
> > One thing we haven't got round to doing is looking
> > at the relative
> > performance of the different service types. It would
> > be interesting to see
> > the cost of bean-wrapped data via the RPC-style
> > service versus XML-like
> > data injected directly using the message-style
> > service.
> > 
> > One thing about the Microsoft sponsored study - it
> > is not clear whether
> > Microsoft applied any parsers for the receipt and
> > interpretation of the
> > request nor the generation of the response. The fact
> > that they got a
> > performance enhancement partially linked to better
> > database access methods
> > means that to some extent, they have an almost
> > straight-to-stream data
> > feed (the bottle neck is not the XML generation,
> > which in turn indicates
> > very optimized data to XML-wrapping).
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > JonB
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Barlow,
> > > Dustin
> > > Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 6:41 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [JBoss-user] JBoss-Net performance issues
> > >
> > >
> > > I've been playing with the simple Hello jboss-net
> > code included in the
> > > samples directory.  I did some performance testing
> > and the
> > > results are quite
> > > stunning.
> > >
> > > The test was simple.  I used the included sample
> > Axis test client to
> > call
> > > the hello(String name) method but instead of
> > passing it a short string,
> > I
> > > decided to make things a little more interesting
> > and pass it a
> > > 75k and then
> > > a 275k string of XML read from a file.  The EJB
> > hello method did nothing
> > > other then accept the data as a parameter, and
> > echo back the size of the
> > > data that was passed into the method.  I was very
> > surprised at how long
> > it
> > > took run.
> > 
> 
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> 
> 
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