> They did this on August 5, after you droped them from the project,
isn't it?

This is not entirely true...
The project was registered on 2003-07-18 at 11:30.

-James


On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 08:33, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
> Bill Burke wrote:
> 
> > JBoss Group, as caretaker of the JBoss project, has recently decided to
> > remove CVS access committers for a few of our committers.  We do not remove
> > from CVS without good reason nor without just cause.  These are the reasons
> > for the removals:
> > 
> > 1. These individuals have refused to discuss design issues on our public
> > forums.  It is crucial to have a public record of design discussions so that
> > others may particpate in future work.
> 
> Good point, but they can have another one: developer's forums are been 
> hosted on JBoss Group's site, not the JBoss project's site (why not ot 
> use Sourceforge mail lists for this?). May be they would like not to 
> transfer their IP to the JBoss Group, IMHO. I can be wrong.
> 
> > 2. More importantly, we have learned that they have forked JBoss.  We also
> > believe they are preparing to submit it, or some derivation, to the new
> > Apache Geronimo project which would violate copyright and LGPL.  Our proof?
> > 
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/elba
> 
> They did this on August 5, after you droped them from the project, isn't it?
> What I understand they will try to separate their IP from the JBoss 
> Group's, so they can contribute _their_ code to Apache under ASL. They 
> have the right to do so.
> But I guess it would be better if JBoss Group and CDN folks try to 
> resolve the IP issues privately without all this buzz.
> 
> > 3. There is just too much conflict of interest of developers working on two
> > different J2EE projects that are being developed under two very different
> > open-source licenses.
> 
> Good point. Agree.
> 
> > JBoss Group believes strongly in the LGPL license and will protect all
> > copyrights held by any JBoss contributor.
> 
> Yes, but contributor has the right to contribute their code to another 
> project under any license they choose, if they did not transfer their 
> rights to the JBoss Group. I do not beleive that anybody outside JBoss 
> Group did this.
> Having CVS, it is simple (yet time consuming) to find out, who 
> contributed any chunk of code.
> 
> Vlad
> 
> P.S. I am not trying to judge you folks, I just have to know what's 
> going on here, and I definitely do not like all this silent undercover 
> moves from both sides.
> 
> 
> 
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