Hey, Joe, welcome to the sausage factory! This is nothing like ColdFusion; it's more like jumping in deep cold water (and you have no idea how deep) and learning to swim by first almost drowning, then treading water, and then getting exhilerated that this is the real stuff, if you can handle this you can handle anything.
After your expectations get dashed, and your initial excitement goes away, then you're ready to begin getting a very different kind of excitement. Not the kind that comes with finding a quicker fix to the job of the month, but the kind that comes from finding something that is so high-octane that learning it will fuel your career and your creativity for years and years to come. Am I just saying that? Well, in 32 (almost 33) years of coding, and most of it on cool and cutting edge stuff, i've only several times seen a vortex with the energy and potential of the j2ee/jboss open-standard/open-source synergy. Over the past several months, the "right" way to install nukes has gone thru about 5 different stages.... and each time it's taken me a dozen+ hours to study the forums and pages and code and sniff-out what would work. (I'm kind of old fashioned; i try to figure it out before ever asking on the forums.... but it's also a good way to learn.) I've found dozens of goose-chase leads like your item from Julien 9/10/03 .... and then you find out that the "installshield" (which has nothing to do with the commercial product of that name) installer (see http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=44740 )completely obsoleted the hypothesis you were forming. ...Nor does it help than many of the cryptic one-liners that you piece together are from non-native-english-speakers, so you don't know whether they really meant it, and in what tense, when they say something like "I is fix it." Ah, well, that's the fun of open source :) So why not give up? Because the reason that things kept changing is that the underlying Nukes architecture was undergoing tectonic shifts of _improvement_ --- and the lack of docco is due not just to the reasons you spoke of, it's due to the wild nature of this rapidly morphing --- and rapidly *improving* -- target. But this week things will settle down for a bit of a breather; yesterday was the feature freeze, and no major changes will be made except bug fixes till the 1.0 comes out. I'm hoping to make some Wiki pages to explain the current way to install/uninstall/upgrade Nukes, and about some other stuff I've learned. But almost every time I come up with a plan to contribute something, somebody who's zippier than I am beats me to it ;-) So whether it's from me or somebody else, there will certainly be better get-going docs over the next week or so. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3823765#3823765 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3823765 ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click _______________________________________________ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
