I completely agree that having the forums post messages to the list is much easier then polling the website for new posts. My point simply was that it would have been the appropriate thing to do for all of us involved to have completed the circle of integration and not to just suggest or imply that the more active code contributors like it so the rest of you can either pound sand or fix it yourself. I am glad to see (as Scott pointed out) that an effort is underway to provide two way communication.
I certainly realize that you guys work hard to build a free product and support to the JBoss user base. People like yourself, Adrian, Scott, and others typically provide excellent support to the many questions that are asked on a daily basis, mine included. I for one greatly appreciate the pro-active approach all of you take in supporting JBoss. Many of us also do what we can with the time we have to answer questions of other JBoss users as well. What I hope you realize is that many of us don't have the time to get involved with contributing to the coding of JBoss and all it's ancillary systems. Many of us are extremely busy building systems for the companies that provide us an income. We as USERS of JBoss do however contribute to the cause by purchasing documentation, training, and also providing you guys with free promotion not only within our own companies we work for but in outside companies as well. Dustin > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Why one-way mapping between forums > and mailing > list? > > > Just wanted to say that the forum/email list integration has been > extremely helpful for me at least. I never, ever read the > forums, and > now I do because I am pushed questions, rather than polling. > We did the > email integration because it made it easier on us to answer questions > and call attention to questions each of us knows how to answer. > > What you can do, is unsubscribe to this general list and subscribe to > only the forums you want to receive email from. > > Bill. > > P.S. Dustin, as long as you are fair in your venting, vent > as much as > you want! We do work hard to give you a free product and > sometimes free > support on the forums and email lists and I hope you realize that. > > Scott M Stark wrote: > > > I'm sorry you feel that way, but the original comment > stands. We use the forums > > and lists to serve the users and having them decoupled is > of no use to us. We > > are not going to wait until the forums have bidirectional > integration with mail, > > which is in the works as part of the Mail Services project: > > http://jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=MailServicesPlan. > > There are no plans to make the list function to your > preference in the interim. > > Rest assured, they work in accordance with the preferences > of the most active > > contributors to JBoss. > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Scott Stark > > Chief Technology Officer > > JBoss Group, LLC > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>Barlow, Dustin > >>Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:20 AM > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >>Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] Why one-way mapping between forums > >>and mailing list? > >> > >>I sorta find this response to an honest question somewhat > offensive. > >> > >>I don't remember anyone notifying or asking the opinion of > >>the people who where effectively using this email list prior > >>to the forum "integration". > >>It was the kind folks at JBoss Inc who made this decision and > >>imposed it on the rest of us who were happily using a simple > >>but effective medium for communication (ie email). > >> > >>So it seems a little odd/out of bounds to me for those same > >>people to now say if you don't like it leave or spend your > >>own time to fix it. You guys are the ones who changed it, so > >>you fix it! Afterall, you do have at least 10 million in the > >>bank now. That should be more then enough to now design and > >>implement the integration the way it should have been done in > >>the first place. > >> > >>I hope this frank response doesn't black list me, but I'm > >>just trying to be honest about my perception of the situation. > >> > >>Dustin > >> > > -- > ================ > Bill Burke > Chief Architect > JBoss Inc. > ================ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > JBoss-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click _______________________________________________ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
