Well after wading thru the mountains of cra... about this subject i am not 
really that much further.  I still come across way too complicated examples and 
a epidemic of over complicated explainations.  

Why is it so hard for them to just explain in plain english(no 50+ acronyms 
that dont mean anything to us beginners) a simple Hello World program.  

I did find a few but they neglect to tell you were you are to place the files 
and were you are to excute the commands the java.org.ect....  

One that many sites point to attemps to show you, but its on a linux machine 
and I use Windows as i blieve the majority of people do.  Plus it is out of 
date.   

What are the parts of the services,  accroding to some sources i found you need 
up to 10 different kinds of files to make it work others only talk about 3?  no 
one can agree. 

All i want to get started so i can understand basic basic working is a simple 
hello world example.   I would need a client.java sits on client computer, a 
descriptor which tells the server how to handle the request? and the java file 
that does the work from the request? both the descripter and java file that 
does work sit on the server?but were on jboss what folder do they go into? were 
on the client do i place the requester java file?

I am using Jboss 4.0.0RC2 ( i picked it because axis is built in. I can get the 
nice happyness page to pop up and it tells me all jars are found) 

any help appreciated



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