Just to wrap this topic up for the benefit of other people that may need to 
know this sort of thing. Here's how I solved my issues:

1) For authenticating via a Java client using commons httpclient you attempt to 
access a secured resource first and then post to the j_security_check servlet. 
You then follow the redirect that is returned at this point.

2) For authenticating via Javascript or in my case some JSP page you follow the 
same path as #1, whereby you attempt to access a secured resource before 
posting to j_security_check. bstansberry's comment about the AJAX stuff got me 
past the point that to complete the process you have to make sure the 
JSESSIONID cookie is retrieved and added to your current session (thank you for 
that)

Now works like a charm, thanks

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