trying to be clearer the doc chapter 8.4.6.3 says:
 It's often the case that a local LDAP server provides identity and 
authentication services but is unable to use the authorization services. This 
is because application roles don't always map well onto LDAP groups, and LDAP 
administrators are often hesitant to allow external application-specific data 
in central LDAP servers. For this reason, the LDAP authentication module is 
often paired with another login module, such as the database login module, that 
can provide roles more suitable to the application being developed.

but chapter 8.4.6.4 says about the databaseLoginModule:
You would use this login module if you have your username, password and role 
information relational database
My question:
How can I use the databaseLoginModule just to retrieve role or what module 
should I use to do so? I don't have the password in the database.
thanks in advance for help, link or anything usefull.

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