Never knew I could improve my english writing by joining the JDE mailing
list :) 
But anyway, good luck Paul and I'll keep my fingers crossed too.

- Marcel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Abrams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 3:51 PM
> To: Paul Kinnucan
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Response Draft 2
> 
> 
> All said IMHO.
> 
> Paul Kinnucan wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Here is an extensively revised draft of my response to J.D. 
> Edwards that
> > incorporates many of your excellent suggetions.
> >
> > I cannot tell you how much I appreciate and rely on your advice and
> > expressions of support.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > ===============================================
> >
> > July 20, 2001
> >
> > Mr. Mark Reinhardt
> > Associate General Counsel
> > J.D. Edwards World Solutions Company
> > One Technology Way
> > Denver, Colorado 80237
> >
> > Dear Sir:
> >
> > This is in response to your letter dated July 11, 2001. I 
> have been using
> > the acronym JDE to refer to the Java Development 
> Environment for Emacs on
> > my web site and elsewhere since 1997. I use the acronym 
> simply as shorthand
> > for my software package's formal name. I have no intention 
> of competing
> > with any product or service of J.D. Edwards or creating the 
> impression that
> > I am in any way associated with J.D. Edwards.
> >
> > In the four-and-half years that I have used JDE, I have 
> received thousands
> > of communications regarding my package. Yours is the first 
> to mention J.D.
> > Edwards.  This plus the facts that J.D. Edwards let its 
> registration of JDE
> > with the U.S. Patent Office expire in 1998 and that it has 
> not attempted
> > unto now to contact me regarding my use of JDE constitute 
> prima facie
> > evidence that my use of JDE has not, in fact, created any 
> confusion or harm
> > to J.D. Edwards.
> >
> > On the other hand,
> 
> As another poster said, you should strike this.  It is less passive.
> 
> > the acronym JDE has become synonymous over the last
> > four-and-a-half years with the Java Development Environment 
> for Emacs in
> > the Emacs and Open Source software communities where I and 
> my package are
> > well known.
> 
> Do you think the Lawyers know what Open Source is?
> 
> > Complying with your demand to cease using the acronym on my web
> > site and elsewhere would create confusion in these 
> communities and would
> > cost me time that I can ill afford as a private individual 
> who receives no
> > monetary benefit from the Java Development Environment for Emacs.
> >
> > I therefore respectfully request that you not contest my 
> right to use the
> > acronym JDE further. By so doing, J.D. Edwards would show 
> the Emacs and
> > Open Source communities that J.D. Edwards is a good 
> corporate citizen.  An
> > examination of my web page should convince J.D. Edwards 
> that my usage of
> > this acronym in no way creates the impression that I am in any way
> > associated with J.D. Edwards or that I am offering any 
> software or service
> > that competes with a J.D. Edwards offering. However, I 
> would be willing to
> > include an explicit disclaimer of any association with J.D. 
> Edwards on my
> > web page.
> >
> > I will be away on vacation next week and will not be able 
> to respond to
> > J.D. Edwards' response to this letter until the following week.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Paul Kinnucan
> 
> Unfortunately Paul, I do not believe the Lawyers will 
> concede.  My perspective
> is that the 'Lawyers' task in this situation will be 
> fullfilled when he returns
> to his client saying 'we have garnered your namesake.'  The 
> lawyer will make
> more money if there is a fight - his client pays for it.  If 
> the Lawyers know
> you cannot afford to fight this they will take advantage of that.
> 
> I think that it would require getting one of the head honchos 
> to call off the
> dogs.  I hate to add negativity but I think we (You) need to 
> be realistic about
> what is going on here.  I have been withholding my opinions 
> because I get
> extremely worked up about this (I am simply a user of the JDE 
> I cant imagine
> what's going on for you).  Since you do not have a lawyer and 
> cannot afford
> one, I think public pressure on JDEdwards may be the best 
> tactic if you truly
> want to keep the name.
> 
> <very frustrated>
> Mark
> </very frustrated>
> 

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