--- Stephane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I plan to give a coure about jde and to introduce this IDE to my new
> pupills next january.

This is a really cool idea.  Will you be able to make your resources
available to us?  I could see giving a Food For Thought here at work.
...I'll teach those VI weenies one of these days... ;-)


> What would you show to emacs-beginners ?

Depends on their exposure to UNIX.  If they don't have any, you can
easily blow them away with features we all take for granted.
Show off some of the extra-cool features not available in, say,
Notepad: rectangular editing, query-replace-regexp, complete,
etc.  Show them that Emacs is a one-stop-shop: fire up customize
and show all the customization groups.


> What are your favorites jde's features ?

There is a long, long list.  However, "Free" is probably my
favourite.  My second favourite is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  Where
does one go for VAJ or JB questions?  Where does one get
authoritative answers for other IDEs?  Where does one get
1-hour-turn-around bug fixes for other IDEs?
Where does one get Paul? Javier? etc...?  :-)


> What may I show to give them the feeling that jde is more suitable
> for java coding than jd3, vaj, etc.

"More suitable" is a very subjective thing.  You mightn't be able
to do this.  People who are comfortable with something find it
really hard to move over to something else...and Emacs has a 
steep learning curve (Yes it does...Yes it does...Yes! It does!)

However, there are ways to diminish the learning curve...(something
that has not yet been done reasonably from my searches on the
Web.)

When I eventually pull together a "learners guide" or a "getting
started manual", it will contain:

- a very rich, well documented, ready-to-use .emacs
- a single ZIP or TAR/GZ file containing a complete Emacs and
  site-lisp distribution (supports above .emacs).  This will
  also include gnuserv/gnuclient.
- a very comprehensive HTML(?) page containing commonly used
  keystrokes.  The official GNU Emacs Reference Card is too
  generic.

Hope this helps,
greg_fenton.

=====
Greg Fenton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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