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"Michael R. Head" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:47:37PM -0800, Kevin A. Burton - burtonator wrote: >
> > I have been working with some Visual Age developers recently. It is really
> cool > watching then reload code on the fly. > > Having a JVM support this
> would be cool. > > Now if it were only Open Source :)
>
> Um... Isn't that the point of Eclipse?
Well... I specifically was taking about the JVM. The SUN JDK 1.4 is still closed.
> <wink> (to fix all the "social" problems with VAJ:
I talked to Sam Ruby about this two years ago at ApacheCon. I don't think this
would have happened if SUN didn't release NetBeans.
> it's Open Source, uses CVS for a repository, simple plugin model -- I used to
> consult for IBM and using VAJ grated on my soul for several of those reasons,
Yes... The developers I work with really are kind of screwed. They don't have
CVS and are stuck with JDK 1.2.2
> and the fact that the editor, even in "emacs mode", was really pretty useless)
ug... yup. Which is one reason that nothing will compare to Emacs :)
> If it only had an emacs plug-in and the SWT had better cross-platform support,
> I'd have to think about switching over, until then, JDE(E) will be my Java
> environment (and I will continue to love it and advocate for it).
>
> (Oh yeah, and Eclipse will also have to be packaged with Debian GNU/Linux
> before I really make the switch)
<snip>
It looks like Eclipse does meet the Debian GNU/Linux FSG. Shouldn't be too long
before you can do an:
apt-get install eclipse
:)
Kevin
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