Sorry for the resend - used the wrong source email address which
resulted in a bounce from the list server!

>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Landes <lan...@mailc.net> writes:

    Paul> I agree, we're overdue for a release.  Shyamal: please proceed
    Paul> when you can and let me know if I can help.  We can get on
    Paul> chat and go through it together as well if that's helpful.

Will do. Thanks.

    Paul> I think to a large degree the project is just not used as much
    Paul> and we've lost interest.  If we had more folks using it we'd
    Paul> have more new development and activity.  I don't really see a
    Paul> good way to garner a lot of interest in this project and get
    Paul> things moving as things moved before the bigger IDEs matured
    Paul> and became prevalent (i.e. Eclipse) other than fork it and/or
    Paul> seriously modify the project, which I no longer have the time
    Paul> to do--at least for the near future.

Personally I believe Emacs users will pick up JDEE as long as it is easy
to install and largely trouble free to use. Will Java developers use
Emacs? I doubt it. I personally don't evangelize Emacs to people who
program in Java exclusively, and I would not target JDEE at such
folks. 

I suspect a lot of (Emacs) people get turned off JDEE because it is so
hard and confusing to install based on publicly available
documentation. Once it is working, it is actually surprisingly good
given how little development has happened in the last few years! 

I remember that when Debian removed the JDEE package (because the cedet
package went away) I had a really hard time getting upstream JDEE to
work for me. Prior to that I had quietly depended on JDEE for many
years, and "it just worked." 

IMHO, it's not the feature set that is the problem, it's that it is too
hard to set up and start up that is causing a loss of interest. The
typical JDEE user wants to write Java code, not futz with elisp.

Cheers!
Shyamal

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