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Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:39
AM
Subject: RE: [JDEV] This is the Worst
Mailling list I have ever used.
Well, do you think flaming the participants of this
list is going to make them want to help you more?
First off, the JDEV list is used by people to discuss
development of new versions of Jabber servers and clients. If you want
to discuss how to install, configure, and use a Jabber server, you should be
posting to JADMIN.
Second, I've been on this list about 6 months.
From what I've seen, questions that don't get answered are usually ones that
nobody knows the answer to. If nobody else has
run into the same problems, then how is anyone supposed to help you? Do
you think the other readers of this list are somehow omniscient? We're
just normal guys like you.
Remember, it's open source software. If you
can't make it work and nobody else can help, you've got all the source code
right in front of you. Dig in and start debugging! And then tell
everyone else what you found. And if you find a bug, fix it and give the
fix back to the community. That's how these things
work.
Solving port problems is generally outside the scope
of Jabber anyhow. The error message you're seeing is because there's
another process that is listening to and has locked those ports.
Figuring out which process is your job as the administrator of your
server. Nobody else knows how your machine and firewall are
configured.
Finally, if you have complaints about the quality of
the FAQs, then pitch in to help improve them! The entire Jabber open
source project is based on user contributions from people like you and
me. Everyone agrees more work is needed on the documentation and
FAQs. So lend a hand.
Todd.
-----Original
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From: Derrick (Thrawn01)
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Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:06
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JDEV] This is the Worst
Mailling list I have ever used.
I have never had this Problem with any other
mailing list. Spanning from Debian-dev,boot,user. to dam IBM.
Every time I post a question to this list. I
never get a response. This list has a problem I've never seen in any other
list.
This is Bad.
I have a problem with my Server at current and
this is not good. My company wants an IM system up yesterday. And I can't
get support. I filed thru the mailing list
archives all the way back to 1999. And I found some messages from other
people with the same problem.
AND GUESS WHAT !!!!!
There posts were never responded
to.
I'm not implying that every post should
be Responded to, I am implying However, that Serious problems
in or associated with the use of a jabber server are not small
problems. And should be resolved and or added to a FAQ or Manual. FAQ's are
easy, you just cut and past the Post with the question and answer in it, to
the FAQ. Wow. that was hard.
Every other list seams to have it together.
What is it with this list ?
Post on Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:29:03 -0500
>>I just built Jabber on a RedHat 7.0 box
running xinetd. When I go to start
>>jabberd, I get alerts
back saying that jabberd is unable to listen on ports
>>5222 and
5269. Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, how did
you
>>resolve it? I've already tried adding these ports to
/etc/services, but
>>this didn't help.
Can Anyone Help this Person ?
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