Adam Theo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Michael Hearn wrote: > >> - Optionally abstract this system so Jabber is not a necessary component for the authentication. > >> However, like I've said before, we should recognise that this is bigger >> than Jabber. If we define a protocol, it should be sufficiently >> abstracted to allow bindings to other protocols as well, therefore >> allowing interoperability. > >hm... my first reaction is "jabber can do it, i'm sure, and do it better >than anything else, so to hell with porting to other platforms". then i >caught myself and realized that you do have a point with >interoperability. so i'm going to propose a comprimise between my old >and your ways: we treat auth in jabber like we treat IM. that is, jabber >has it's own protocol that works best for it, but then also has >'transports' to other auth systems (like liberty alliance's, passport >federation, and dotgnu's when/if they get it done). this way jabber >keeps the power of having it's own custom system, but interoperates with >ease to others... i think this is the best approach.
The only problem that I see with this is that the solution that Jabber took for interoperating with Yahoo, ICQ, AIM, MSN, etc. is a kluge. If I have a buddy on one of those systems I still have to have an account on one of those systems to communicate with them, even if I never launch my IM for that specific system again. Within the Jabber Environment, (I.e. from jabber server to jabber server) I do not have a problem. I can communicate with you if you are on a different Jabber Server, because in one way or another jabber servers pass the messages for me. >From what little I read, about all that the microsoft offering provides is access to >your account when logging into another platform. and making use of that platform only to communicate with people on the host system your account belongs on. Little more than what I can do with my ATM card at a competitors bank ATM. I can manage my account and withdraw money. Maybe. If I have an account at the bank the ATM belongs to (or rather is "responsible for") I can even get money from the ATM without paying aditional fees. So long as I limit myself to the account at that bank. Jabber comes closest to a solution for this with the transport system. I can communicate with IM users on other platforms. I still have to have an account with that other system however. I think I will go back to bed. Let me know when there is a client available that allows me to communicate with my friends on whatever platform -Rusty IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: rusty0101 yahooIM: rusty_curry or JayRCurry ICQ: 63444647 _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
