Jean-Louis, Four points;
1) Antepos' website states it distributes Uppli's Messanger as a J2ME client, which is based on my library, as the Email from Uppli shown at http://www.alsutton.com/software/antepo-uppli.html prooves. 2) The fee-based licence agreement came into force because of companies distributing products based on my code under a commercial licence without donating to it's development, which I beleive is wrong and wanted to protect against. 3) The timing of the licence change had nothing to do with Antepo. I am sure you keep your partnering agreements under tight enough security to ensure non related third parties are not aware of them. 4) I'm not prepared to allow you to attempt to strong arm any developer using my library, and as this is the list on which the libraries availability was announced I felt it would be the best place to ask if anyone else has received legal threats from your company. If you wish to continue this conversion please do so off this list, as I feel further disussions of this nature are not of interest to the general community, and please remember that your company's right to distribute or reproduce any system containing my code has been revoked. Regards, Al. >> Original Message from "Jean Louis Seguineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on >Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:21:18 +0100 << Dear Al, Your recent whining has been brought to my attention. Before this thread snowballs, I want to bring truth to what you are heralding in this forum. I also would like to point out that the JDEV development list is probably not the most appropriate forum for such discussions. IMHO your attitude is disrespectful towards a community you are hijacking as a forced witness. I am sure you will appreciate that we developers have better fish to fry than read wrongful accusations against well-established companies such as ours. Before you make any claims that "Antepo distribute a J2ME client based on my library", I thought you'd like to know that the current Antepo commercial J2ME solution (I'm obviously not talking about Uppli's uMessenger freely available for download) does NOT include any bit of your software and can therefore be distributed as freely as we desire. Not to bring down your efforts or skills, but KvmJab is a fly-by-night, crappy, buggy, non-secure, non-scalable, non-device-optimized piece of software that our company was reluctant to use from the very beginning given our customers' requirements for real-life implementations. Feel free to revoke any right you want... Second, I think you have no lessons to give regarding strong-arm practices. I thought the community would be happy to know how you allegedly used such tactics to obtain fees from Uppli following our company's public announcement of a partnership with a major corporation involving software derived from Uppli's. Is it a coincidence that your KvmJab license retroactively becomes fee-based on November 20th 2001 when Antepo announced this major partnership on November 21st? Where you hoping to make an extra dime on second thoughts? A little too Microsoft-like for an open source Robin Hood, isn't it? As for copyright infringement issues and litigation we may have with other companies, I suggest you stick to development like I do and let the lawyers do their jobs. This is certainly something you and I have no control over, nor expertise in dealing with. Convinced? If not, email me and we'll talk...privately this time, in respect for the community. ___________________________ Jean-Louis Seguineau Chief Technology Officer Antepo, Inc. ACCEPT, by Antepo Advanced Converging Communication and Enhanced Presence for the Telecom _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev -- Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
