Before we go picking at AOL, it's worth noting that an IPv6 network has no way of accessing our IPv4 internet without proxies, unless your IPv6 network also has a valid IPv4 block mapped to it. In that case, putting your server on the Internet will be impossible, even if you aren't using AOL. Having an HTTP-based s2s sidesteps all these issues in a very convenient way.
- Dave =?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?= wrote: > > It's probably not the rigt place to deal about that, but can AOL call itself > an ISP ? What they offers is an access to the web (==port 80), not to the > whole Internet, all their other services are proprietary solutions.... > > So, if AOL is your provider, forget about all the wonderful things the > Internet can offer... > > > If you find Jabber great and have AOL as ISP, the only thing to do is find > another ISP ! > I think that losing clients is the only thing that can make AOL understand > that their proprietary policy is not the right one... > > > > Stephane. > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Richard Dobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Envoy� : vendredi 8 mars 2002 10:13 > � : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies > > > Well if you are using an AOL dialup connection to host a jabber server then > I think you have much greater problems to deal with anyway, also there is a > reason ISP's use such measures, so they can stop people hosting servers on > their connections when they shouldnt be in the first place, if you want to > host a server in such a situation change to an ISP that does not have the > aformentioned proxy servers. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:04 AM > Subject: Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies > > > > If you control your firewall, that's great. If you're behind AOL's proxy, > > though, you really need a crutch if you want to be able to run your own > > server ;-) > > > > - Dave > > > > > > Thomas Muldowney wrote: > > > > > > I disagree. Jabber is another service that firewall admins should deal > > > with appropiately. Tunnelling is a crutch and abuse of a good firewall > > > setup, and I think should be avoided. > > > > > > --temas > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 14:43, Dave wrote: > > > > Maybe we should set up some sort of HTTP-based s2s protocol? That'll > > > > allow servers to talk to each other even when they're behind > firewalls. > > > > (HTTP-based c2s already exists.) > > > > > > > > Dave Cohen > > > > > > > > > > > > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?= wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The answer is : NO > > > > > > > > > > And a proxy would only allow outgoing connection (yourServer -> > > > > > jabber.org:5269) but not the incoming one (jabber.org -> > yourServer:5269) > > > > > s2s needs 2 simultanous TCP connection to work... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernab� [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Envoy� : mercredi 6 mars 2002 15:06 > > > > > � : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Objet : Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't open that port. > > > > > So there is no way to say a jabber server it should use a proxy > (maybe with > > > > > a tag in s2s description)? > > > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > Rodrigo > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Riviere St�phane Jean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:01 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if this has changed with the 1.4.2 server but it wasn't > > > > > possible with the 1.4.1. > > > > > You have to open the 5269 port on your firewall to enable s2s > > > > > communication... > > > > > > > > > > St�phane. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernab� [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Envoy� : mercredi 6 mars 2002 12:11 > > > > > � : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Objet : [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can a jabberd server work through a Proxy? > > > > > I mean, I have my server compiled and working. Clients can connect, > users > > > > > can talk (only users connected directly to my server), etc. > > > > > > > > > > But the server cannot find jabber.org. And it's because there's a > proxy > > > > > between my server and the Internet. > > > > > Could anybody help me? 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