Oh blah. Quit your license whining. It's not like Adam (or I for that matter, the author of that code) have any money to sue you if you decided to write your own jabber<->smtp transport in perl. Its just a little side project that gets little use. And the license was an experiment to see if it would take off (note: it hasn't and adam still has my 5 bucks :). So lay off.
James Michael DuPont wrote: > --- David Waite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>James Michael DuPont wrote: >> >> >>>Also there is some software with a crazy license on it, >>>a "ransom" license? I thought jabber is free software? I dont want >> >>any >> >>>ransom software on my machine, why is in CVS if it cannot be used? >>> >>> >> >>Huh? Elaborate please. > > I am talking about Adam Theos Ransom License on the theoretic-smtp > jabber gateway. > > I find it amusing and annoying on the positive side, Even creative. > > On the negative side I feel violated having seen this source code, now > how can I implement the same under a GPL without getting into a nasty > conflict? Why should I get source code out of CVS that I have to > delete? > I just did a "co ." to get all the branches. > > QUOTE "3 Once the evaluation period ends, you agree to either > purchase a registered copy of the software at usd$5.00, or immediately > stop any further use, copying and modification of the software and any > modifications and to destroy all such copies or modifications." > > I mean come on! What type of BS is that? Sure Adam is only 21 years > old, but it is a bit silly. > > I have written my questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] before, and have > gotten no statement from him. The point is, that it is ok, I would say > to put it on his own web server, but what is it doing on the jabber > server? > Do you have to delete the source code from your server after 30 day? > > There is not anything really special about this source code, and > >http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/theoretic-smtp/jabber.pl?rev=1.6&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup > is missing any license statement. > > Also , how can I contribute to jabber if we are not all playing on the > same level playing ground? > > Also, adam has been pushing to get jabber into DotGNU, > project and I have not wanted to make a big deal about it, but > jabber is now an officially endorsed project. > > But it is strange that I cannot even use his contribution as part of a > GNU software, > the license is totally unacceptable for a free software project and > represents an inpurity that has to be removed. > > Dont take me as being negative, > I think that he should be able to license his ideas and software as > he likes, but not mixing it up with free software. I dont want anything > to do wiht this ransom license for my software that is under GPL. > > If you feel that this is good, then collect the money, > pay him off, and remove the license. Otherwise you will just scare > people off. > > Best Regards, > James Michael DuPont > > TWO SNIPPETS FOLLOW : > [1] theoretic-smtp/README > [2] theoretic-smtp/LICENSE > > -------------------------SNIP------------------------- > >[1]http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/theoretic-smtp/README?rev=1.4&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup > -------------------------SNIP------------------------- > ### LICENSE > You may download, use, and redistribute the source code at no > cost. However, you may not modify and redistribute, or incorporate > this source code into other projects. That is because the source code > is not yet Open Source or Free Software. It is published under a > "Ransom License", which means the rights to the source code remain > restricted until a set amount of money is collected or a set date > passes, at which point the code is freed. You can read the particular > Ransom License used, "Theoretic's Simple Ransom License v0.9", in the > LICENSE file found packaged with the SMTP-T program or from its > website [http://www.theoretic.com/?JabberSMTP]. And you can help Open > Source JabberSMTP by contributing to its Ransom amount > [http://www.theoretic.com/?JabberSMTP/Ransom]. To find out more > information about the Ransom Model, visit the Ransom website > [http://www.theoretic.com/?Ransom]. > -------------------------SNIP------------------------- > > > -------------------------SNIP------------------------- > >[2]http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/theoretic-smtp/LICENSE?rev=1.2&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup > -------------------------SNIP------------------------- > ######### THEORETIC'S SIMPLE RANSOM LICENSE ########## > Version 1.1 > > Copyright 2001 Adam Theo > > This Simple Ransom License covers all copyrighted material that say > they are covered under the terms and conditions of the "Simple Ransom > License". > > Use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are > permitted provided that the following conditions are met: > 1 You may use, copy, or modify the software at no cost for an > evaluation period of up to 31 days, beginning when you first install > the software on one or more computers, in order to determine whether > the product meets your needs before purchasing it. > 2 You may use, copy or modify the source code or binary form > for your internal use only. No redistribution is allowed. This applies > for both evaluation and registered copies. > 3 Once the evaluation period ends, you agree to either > purchase a registered copy of the software at usd$5.00, or immediately > stop any further use, copying and modification of the software and any > modifications and to destroy all such copies or modifications. > You should make payments through PayPal > (http://www.paypal.com), sending to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', although > I may accept other payment methods if you talk to me about it. > 4 By registering the copy to you, the copyright holder is > obligated to count your payment towards the Ransom Amount of > usd$100.00. When the full Ransom Amount has been collected, the source > code will be automatically re-licensed under the JOSL, included > below. > Details and other information on this Ransom model can be > found at http://www.theoretic.com/ransom, or from the > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. > > > THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS > "AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT > LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR > A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR > CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR > PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF > LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING > NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS > SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. > -------------------------SNIP------------------------- > > ===== > James Michael DuPont > http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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