Timothy Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 14-6-2003 23:05:12: > >An option could be to target ISPs so they can provide a multi-transport >service to their customers. >
That's a good example of a localised portal. But it will be hard to offer serverside tranports for an ISP. Apart from the instability, they make themselves a target for blocks and maybe even legal action from AOL. On top of that they'll have to put up with question from users about why the groupchat/filetransfer/etc. doesn't work. They'd be better off I think, hacking GAIM a bit to give it a nice skin with their company logo and such. Or some agreement with Trillian to give away a version with their skin. >Why? ISPs (apart from AOL) have very few vehicles to maintain >awareness but a giveaway IM skinned with their branding connected to >their servers would be a very useful and sticky feature. The local >portal route. > >I am keen to see Jabber as the enabling technology for >intercommunication - the next level on the IP stack as it were - not >have it relegated to just another Chat community, which is what client- >side transports imply. Before we can compete on features in the consumer-market we'll need a sufficient userbase. Multi-protocol clients are a very good way of introducing new users to Jabber. In no way does multi-protocol client such as Trillian imply that it's "just about the chat". It can implement jabber-features just as well as clients that only implement jabber as a protocol. What is important, is that new users are brought onto the network. Not just for the users that run a multi-protocol client (in fact, for them it's less important), but also the users that run a client that only does Jabber. Once you have a fair slice of the pie, you can compete on features. Then it also get's more attractive for both commercial and non- commercial entities to offer jabber-based services. (For examplee, I can imagine one day Trillian will offer Jabber-acounts for a small fee, that integrate with the rest of their own communities (forums and such)). >> Jabber will never "win" in a marketing battle, nor can we use an OS >> monopoly to force our client on users. But with a mix of good >> servers, local portals, and just as critically, decent support for >> Jabber in the multi-protocol clients, we can reach a "critical" >> mass, where competition will be more on features and possibilities. >> And I think we *all* agree that Jabber with it's advantage of being >> an open standard that is open for use can have a big lead on the >> competion when it comes to that. > >I would say that I have almost all buddies on MSN and Yahoo. All have >moved off ICQ (where I too started) and none are on AIM! Every time you ask this question you'll get a different answer. For me it's a small part Jabber, and the rest is 50/50 between ICQ and MSN. I do know that once Trillian standard will support Jabber the Jabber part will get bigger and the ICQ/MSN part smaller. -- Tijl Houtbeckers Software Engineer @ Splendo The Netherlands _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
