I'm glad this is idle chit-chat on my side and I don't have to pick a
protocol ;)

SIP has momentum on it's side: a lot of companies are producing SIP
products today.  (same could be said for H.323)  It's cool to see XMPP
showing its flexibility  by negotiating streaming interactions, but I'd
worry that it'd be yet another way of slicing the same problem.  

That said, more protocols=more options and let darwinian principals
decide the outcome :)  (that is unless M$ or such imbalances the
equation with cash)

BTW, I should put some meat in the post:  Which XMPP clients support
video/audio streaming?  Any open source ones.  Inquiring minds want to
know...

-Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Peter Millard
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Voice over IP
> 
> 
> Mike Prince wrote:
> > So, at the end of the day, perhaps XMPP client A sends a request to 
> > client B to call them at sip://clientahost.com.  Client B then goes 
> > out of band and fires up their SIP stack to complete the call.
> 
> Why even bother with SIP, when you can do all of the SDP 
> negotiation inside of XMPP? Checkout TINS at:
> 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hildebrand-xmpp-sdpng-00.txt

pgm.

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