On Wednesday, Aug 6, 2003, at 16:40 US/Eastern, Mikael Hallendal wrote:

ons 2003-08-06 klockan 21.38 skrev Julian Missig:

I didn't think I needed to argue the case for public compliance testing
to the JSF, but I guess I do...

I'm not JSF, I just said my personal opinion on the matter. Personally I
would find it cumbersome to have to track bugs for my client in two
different places.

That's not the point of having compliance testing and listing. The people who do compliance tests would report the bugs, and they should report it to your bug report system as well.


The list is so that anyone working on any aspect of Jabber can go and take a look at why the system is messing up. When a new version of software is released which fixes the bugs, the compliance testers can then mark the bug as completed. This list is for the community, not for specific client developers. No one will expect or force developers to directly deal with and keep looking at this compliance problem list. This is so people doing compliance testing can get organized.

*Example*:
I see gnome-jabber sends out <show>normal</show> in its presence. As a person working on compliance testing, I file an issue on the Jabber compliance list. Then I file a bug report with gnome-jabber. If the gnome-jabber guy fixes it in the next release, then I can mark the compliance issue as completed, and now that aspect of gnome-jabber is closer to being compliant with Jabber and XMPP.


In the future, when we actually start having a 'stamp of approval' for Jabber Compliant clients, this list will be useful. It's not a separate list that client authors have to deal with. It's a list for the community to watch so they know clients to avoid.

If you personally don't want to deal with the JSF, the Jabber community, or the compliance of your client to the JSF's protocols, then ignore the list.

Julian

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