Richard Dobson wrote:

Any chance that someone put the hacks back into jabberd2? Since Flash is
quickly becoming a platform of choice for enterprise development I think
Flash-Jabber connectivity would leverage a lot of new possibilities!



Its not a matter of putting the hacks back in since they have never been in the jabberd2 code in the first place.

Also IMO it would be a bad idea to use Flash as an enterprise development
platform, its not really suited to that purpose IMO and you will be limiting
yourself using it, IMO for proper enterprise web applications you would be
far better using Java. Also I would highly question the observation of yours
that Flash is becoming a platform of choice for enterprise development, all
the evidence ive seen shows that Java is the platform of choice for proper
enterprise development as evidenced with all the WebSphere stuff from IBM,
all the JBoss stuff etc etc.



<not-really-on-topic>
Ok maybe, I ve not been precised enought, what I am talking about is RIA - Rich Internet Application-
which involve as its name suggests a Rich Client, communicating to a enterprise-backend (in most case
Java). When you say it's a bad idea, it's a really personnal judgement since I m using Flash as a RIA
framework for about one year now, with Cocoon on the backend (Open Source XML Publishing
Framework ) and the two are playing together happily so far. Now if you follow the emerging trends,
you'll certainly notice that Macromedia is currently dominating the RIA market, and the demand on
the employement market begin to appear. I m not playing the Flash advocate since my developments
are mostly based on open-source components, but at the moment, there is no real alternative on this
front, and MM just took some advance with it's last product called Flex
</not-really-on-topic>


Now there are three ways for a Flash Client to talk to communicate with its environnement.

1. HTTP
2. Flash Communication Server (costly)
3. XMLSocket based server (Unity, Jabber 1.4)

Flash Communication Server is not really affordable, so XMLSocket is the only real solution
for real-time communication. Sean Voisen with its XIFF project recently demonstrated how powerful
the combination of Jabber and Flash could be, and my point is it would be sad to see so much of
nice perspectives being cut-down in the coming version of Jabber.


Now one question remaining is, what does the Jabber protocol say about that? Is terminating
strings sent back to the client by a null character comes in contradiction with the protocol?
Or is terminating the Stanza by a backslash is just a hack and clearly not allowed by the protocol.
If this is the case, I can understand your point, and I m sure there is some workaround possible
outside the server (implementing a proxy that do the transformation).
Otherwise....
I dont have enought knowledge about the Jabberd2 architecture and implementation, but may
be there is a clean way to do things? Any thoughts?


Kind Regards,

Johann

Furthermore it would be sad to see a brillant project like XIFF (
http://www.jabberstudio.org/projects/xiff/) to only stick to 1.4 branch...



Richard


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