Hi

I have a question to the pugins for Jabber.
Jabber offers to nearly every messenger-protocol a plugin-gate, so you can message to 
AOL/MSN/YAHOO(IRC/ICQ-Buddies, to mention the main vendors. 
As well a jabber-account could be used.
So Jabber is really a very good multi-instant-messenger-experience (MIME), and is 
something like trillian, gaim, easymessage or gab/miranda.
http://www.ayzoo.com/down/zgabsource.zip

Jabber is as well based on interconnected servers. So any account on any server can be 
found on any server- just a pretty communication ring like the edonkey servers for a 
filesearch.

Now I want not only by AOL buddies in Jabber, but as well the friends with a 
WASTE-key. You know the project:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/waste

It�s the first messenger with a decentral chatroom and architecture, which of course 
needs for bootstrapping as well a servercontact.

So my question is, is there any project up to date, which has the interest to allow 
WASTE-Buddies to be found over the jabber servers?

Is this the right mailinglist to discuss server development or are you only involved 
with client development?

Here some of the efarm server developers from the kademlia network have tried some 
development for a server accepting WASTE-Buddies.
http://www.efarm-project.net/forum/index.php?showforum=20 

Why is Miranda/Gab not integrating WASTE-Buddies.
maybe this need some servermodification, Padlock fom Via (chip) have made some 
development as well, but was not sucessful to the serverside and is still in 
development?!

Thanks for a reply to the integration of jabber into any buddy-feature as a 
Multi-Instant-Messenger-Expirience (MIME).


See MLDonkey, they are as well a MULTI-Donkey (was: Ocaml) and were integrated in many 
apps.. I think jabber should be the same.. Miranda-Trill-Gaim is based only on the big 
players, jabber is the only open and community developed thing .. but WASTE as well, 
so joining this would be a good thing,

Any advantages more ?

The concept would be to integrate the WASTE-Code into a jabber client wich refers only 
to the buddy list features (no broadcastgin ip idresses, so a stable buddylist, not 
network style built with friends of friends) and the decentral chatroom features. I 
think jabber needs as well decentral chatrooms, like AOL AIM offers now as well for 
even non-Aol Menmbers (AIM Members). 
The client asks for the WASTE-Keys of the buddylist all jabber-servers for the actual 
Ip adress. If found, then you get contact without any server, so it is only the 
bootstrapping process to find the buddy. 
Every buddy announces his IP adress and WASTE-KEY at any server when coming online. If 
one buddy ist not found by the saved IP adress inside the client, then the server is 
asked with the key for the actual ip adress. This is a small process to code with 
existing code of Waste. Just ping pong.

Last week I saw a double sided Advetrtisement in a big newsmagazine to use MSN 
Messenger... It is a big market, there is already a good development of features, see 
www.skype.com etc.

Would be cool to have this tool as well integrated in the jabber clients:
http://myphone.sourceforge.net
Then jabber gets video and voice chat as well. Its open source!

Thanks










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