On 8/11/05, Trejkaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:29, Vinod Panicker wrote: > > In this case, yes the flood will be individual presence stanza's that > > come along from different parts of the world. But there's no specific > > information in the RFC of what has to be done about contact presence > > which the server already has since they are local. > > Well strictly speaking, I suppose that the case of not having to probe still > exists if another of your own resources is already online, because all the > state for your contacts would be present in the server already due to being > probed earlier for the other resource. State of other users' contacts might > also be present in the server and not need to be probed.
Correct. > The way I see it, the act of not probing is an optimisation. Even for local > users you might need to probe (suppose your server is distributed somehow, > and that the two users are on different nodes), and if you don't, then it > seems like you're just supposed to "pretend" you did. I thought that was > clear enoughm though, since all the servers already do it the same way > without being told to. > > But maybe the spec does need updating to clarify that, in which case the XMPP > list is definitely the place to do that kind of stuff. Of course common sense and prior experience with IM tech had already given these answers, but I admit my mistake - I should have requested some clarification for the sake of completeness on the xmpp list. I'll take this there. Thanks for your patience and willingness to rfc-speek. > > > This much is plain commonsense. If your contact's server doesn't even > > > know you're online, it can't know you're there to send the presence to, > > > let alone know when to send it. :-) > > > > As I was reffering to earlier, what if the contacts are local to the > > server - the server knows that both contact and user are online. > > It doesn't actually, if you haven't said you're present yet. You might be a > bot which has authenticated and is going to do some stuff without actually > going "online." In IM speak, "online" and "present" mean the same thing. No > presence, no online. Agreed. Regards, Vinod. _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev
