On 11/9/05, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A dumb question: can't the initiator figure out itself that it is
> unreachable for clients outside its NAT using its local ip number?
> Ip numbers come in classes and some are designated local subnets.

not only NAT makes it hard to contact a client.  A firewall that
blocks incomming connections counts too.  Anyways sometimes clients
behind NAT _can_ see each other:
 - they might both be inside the same network
 - the networks might be linked via a vpn

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