On 23 Nov 2005, at 10:38 PM, Sander Devrieze wrote:
Op woensdag 23 november 2005 13:37, schreef Pieter Barrezeele:
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Look at Coccinella cvs ( http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/ ). Yes,
it is only a
matter of time until Coccinella will replace Psi as the default
Jabber
client :-p (I hope ;-) ).
Ugh, once more we are confronted with the ugliness of some Linux UI
toolkits.
Jabber-wise you can dismiss this post as a rant, but with an
interface like this, you'll never get to warm up people for this
particular software, no matter how many features it has...
Did you actually tried a *recent* version of Coccinella (latest or
cvs)? Or
did you just looked at the *outdated* screenshots on the website?
Is this
ugly?: http://sander.dontexist.org/coccinella.png
I admit I kind of trusted the website for having a decent as well as
recent screenshot on as much as it entry pages...
The screenshot you posted looks a _lot_ better and should I have seen
that instead of the one on the coccinella website, I probably
wouldn't have bothered ranting about it... :-)
But now that we're at it:
- native widgets for any UI toolkit (be it tcl/tk or swing or...) are
only as good as the native widgets themselves. Don't get me wrong:
both GTK and Qt, being themeable, have some pretty decent themes. I
kind of like the default ubuntu gtk theme, for example, but take a
look at Keramik and tell me that style isn't too intruding... I am
very glad it only lasted one minor release as default KDE theme.
- about coccinella (and more specifically the screenshot you
posted ;)): just noting that I don't get why the font in your
groupchat is at least 2 points smaller than the font in the users
list for that groupchat ?
- And why do these icons have to be that large ?
- Also, looking at the left-most edge of the chatroom window... Why
does that has to be in two levels of depth? A lot of current Linux UI
themes suffer a lot of what I would call 'ballast'. In my very humble
opinion, this interferes too much with the user experience...
Anyway, I realize this all has little or nothing to do with jabber
development, but sometimes it's hard to draw the lines between client
issues and user interface issues... :)
Cheers,
Pieter.
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