On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:

Hello,

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 12:32:49PM -0500, Andrew Plotkin wrote:

Hi -- I'm one of the Volity developers. I missed this discussion
yesterday, but I can comment on how Volity got the way it is.

Do I get Volity right that just everything happens on the server and you
can not have games without server support? It is a bit glitch for things
like tic-tac-toe or battleship, IMHO.

I think the answer to your question is "yes, everything happens on the server". Except that's confusing, because I'm not talking about a *Jabber* server. Every game requires a Volity game server, which is a Jabber client (bot).

If that's what you meant too, then good. :)

As everyone has said, cheating is a problem -- both passive cheating (seeing private information) and active (making illegal moves). Having a game server makes the problems go away. And it's much easier to build a uniform system than to say "ok, these games don't need a server, those games need one, and these others don't *need* one but it'll save us a lot of anticheating design..." The fact that tic-tac-toe can be done more simply isn't a compelling argument; tic-tac-toe doesn't draw in many real players.

Also, the game server winds up handling a lot of infrastructure work (noticing new players, distributing game status to them, tracking players across client disconnects).

--Z

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