On Tue Sep 2 23:27:13 2008, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > JLIST wrote: >> Hello Peter, >> >>> Instant messaging, alerts and notifications, that kind of thing. >> >> I see. I would want my IM messages to be guaranteed delivered :) > > Most IM users don't care. > > I'm not strictly sure that's the case - I think that during a conversation, we can essentially rely on unacked, theoretically lossy messaging because it's actually really reliable. The human factor is usually the fail point.
To put it another way, most IM users wouldn't realise messages can actually be lost, because it happens sufficiently rarely, especially compared with how many messages get ignored. > And how do you define "guaranteed delivery"? At least once? At most > once? Delivery with receipt? Delivery with receipt per-hop? > Delivery with cryptographically signed receipts? > > See also XEP-0184 if you really care about this (message receipts). Tsk. That won't guarantee delivery. You need that *and* XEP-0198 on every hop. And, of course, you need to be able to reconnect if your network connection does go down. Or, you could simply use a perfectly reliable network. Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade _______________________________________________ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________
