27.08.2010 19:54, Dave Cridland wrote:
On Fri Aug 27 10:00:07 2010, Evgeniy Khramtsov wrote:
There is also a possibility where a malicious user can generate thousands of fake resources with different caps/features which you should also track. A server should also have a protection against this, especially if it is a small server.


There are always attacks like this. A malicious user can generate thousands of fake resources without PEP, and you still need to track them in order to do presence optimization.

I'm not surprised if it is indeed possible in other places.

So you're snooping all messages even from remote sources to guess if they're PEP events intended to be filtered? How would you know? If I (or my client) explicitly subscribes to a particular node on PEP/PubSub-onna-jid service, you'd filter it out anyway.

If you have caps and valid disco#info then there will not be such problem. So it works in practice.

I'm struggling to understand how that does not violate the XEP?

auto-subscribe is defined as a depth=all items subscription to the root node from the bare_jid, and filtered-notifications then only sends the notifications to those full jids that have requested them. Both are required for PEP. I don't see how you can claim to be conformant to PEP without doing both.

Yes, but http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0163.html#notify-addressing para 4 says: "... if the PEP service does not have presence information about a subscriber, it MUST address the notification to the subscriber's bare JID (<[email protected]> or <domain.tld>)."

So because you filter on the subscriber's end, you restrict PubSub-onna-jid to the PEP subset, and because you don't filter on the service end, you break even that if the subscriber isn't on ejabberd.

Well, strictly speaking yes. However such situation is uncommon it practice: all popular clients provide caps and disco#info.

I don't see why you think this is a good thing.

I've said it before: it is easier to implement and doesn't require blowing up the memory with foreign crap.

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Regards,
Evgeniy Khramtsov, ProcessOne.
xmpp:[email protected].

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