Hi,

> On 26 Jan 2021, at 19:36, george b <scooterschors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to omemo xep [3] 5.2: "Devices MUST subscribe to 
> urn:xmpp:omemo:1:devices via PEP". But pep state [4] 1.2: "because they are 
> subscribed to your presence, they automatically receive your events". I would 
> expect, as long as the users are subscribed to the others presence, they will 
> automatically receive the devicelist nodes and updates? That does not work 
> for me. 

I suspect you’re missing the magic presence subscription mechanism PEP uses. 
You automatically subscribe to PEP nodes that you indicate in your caps that 
you want to using +notify features.

Searching 163 for +notify will probably help here.

/K
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