I joined this forum about 3 days ago. I think this forum is a good place
for like minded individuals to exchange good ideas and help out. But I
think this forum is wasted on dealing at such long length on trivial
matters. I think we need a moderator who can nip in the bud such
discussions that go on and on to avoid flooding everyone's email. Let us
try to address bigger issues and more complex problems than the current
topic. 

I am sorry if I sound a little harsh but I am tired of deleting so many
messages flooding in thru my inbox.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:35 AM
To: JDJList
Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the real
wor ld" ?

Can you please give some examples of the kind of code you write in your
job
so that I can see if it is stuff that I am likely to be able to
understand
and grasp ?



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:41 PM
Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the real
wor
ld" ?


> I thought about this for a while, and it's not an easy answer.  A lot
> depends on where you work.  If you are not lucky, then you get stuck
> programming in a language you hate and your life can be a living hell.
On
> the other hand, if you work for a good company, then life is pretty
good.
> For instance I work at a company that is medium to small (200
employees)
but
> has money.  I'm the technical lead, but also our architect.  I get to
wear
> multiple hats which makes my job interesting and I try to keep our
> programmers interested by having them learn knew technology along the
way.
>
> In general, programming in the real world means your ass is on the
line
> because you're expected to perform at a certain competency level.  I
mentor
> our junior programmers, but I also expect a lot out of them.  If you
always
> write crappy code, eventually you'll be called on the carpet or given
really
> weak assignments.
>
> You also need to leave your ego at the door.  That was the hardest
thing
for
> me to do when I first started.  After a while I saw the light.  It
doesn't
> take too long when you have to work on someone's poorly documented,
> obfuscated, hacked up POS code.
>
> Programming in the real world is pressure.  It seems like there is
always
> some unrealistic deadline set by some marketing person or a vp --
"It's
> vital to our business".  User's never know what they want, they only
know
> that what you gave them was not it and they all think they are the
only
ones
> with a problem.  And anyone who has ever gone through a major
implementation
> can tell you, those suck beyond belief.
>
> On the other hand, you get to do a job that's like nothing else.
You're
> part of a community that the rest of the company just can't fathom.
You
can
> tend to get away with things others don't, especially if you're good.
I
go
> ride my bicycle two hours a day in the middle of the day.  Nobody says
a
> thing because it keeps me sane, and my work never suffers.  A number
of
our
> programmers keep some odd hours but as long as the work gets done,
nobody
> minds much.
>
> From a purely technical standpoint programs written in the real world
are
> vastly more complex than what you'll write in high school and college.
> However, the basic structure of the programs is still the same.  It's
just
> that the programs themselves are larger and more complex.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:18 AM
> To: JDJList
> Subject: [jdjlist] what is it like to be a programmer "in the real
> world" ?
>
>
> And to Joseph or anyone else who would like to answer:-
>
> Can you possibly tell me what it is like to be a programmer (in I
assume
the
> Java language) in the real world ? What I mean really by that is, what
sort
> of code do you write in your job ? I assume you are working as a
computer
> programmer ?
>
> So what sort of code do you produce and work with in your job ? And is
this
> difficult code ? Would I find it difficult to understand and work with
?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph B. Ottinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:12 PM
> Subject: [jdjlist] Re: two exercises I am trying to solve at the
moment....
>
>
> > RE: [jdjlist] Re: J2MEWell, Tim, the first step is to read the
suggestions
> > made by your coursework. Start small; write functions that do the
simple
> > stuff first. Break the problems down (although most of the work has
been
> > done for you already.) Man, these questions have gotten easier since
*I*
> was
> > in grade 9.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tim Nicholson
> > To: JDJList
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:09 AM
> > Subject: [jdjlist] two exercises I am trying to solve at the
moment....
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone again,
> >
> > this is in addition to the previous email that I sent but this is on
a
> > rather different topic.
> >
> > I am trying to work through some problems/exercises and I was
wondering
if
> > anyone might be able to suggest how I might be able to solve these
> problems
> > ?
> >
> > Like I said before, this email is on a different topic to the email
that
I
> > sent before.
> >
> > The 1st problem I was wondering if anyone could help me on is as
follows
> :-
> >
> >
========================================================================
> >
> > Design and implement a program that allows the user to input a
number in
> any
> > base (2..16) as a string of digits (0..9, A..F) and the base that
the
> number
> > is in and displays the value in decimal of the input number.
> > Your program must have two function methods that respectively
return:
> > the value of one digit character; and
> > the value of a whole string of digits in a given base.
> > Hint: The first of those functions makes it easier to write the
second.
> > Your program may have a BreezySwing or text-only interface
> >
> >
========================================================================
> >
========================================================================
> > And the second one is like this :-
> >
=======================================================================
> > Write a program that allows the user to input any int value and
outputs
> that
> > number in words.
> > Examples:
> > inputoutput
> > 0zero
> > 3three
> > 13thirteen
> > 23twenty-three
> > 223223two hundred and twenty-three thousand, two hundred and
twenty-three
> > 223223223two hundred and twenty-three million, two hundred and
> twenty-three
> > thousand, two hundred and twenty-three
> > >2147483647two billion, one hundred and forty-seven million, four
hundred
> > and eighty-three thousand, six hundred and forty-seven
> > -1minus one
> >
> > Your program must have three function methods that respectively
return:
> > a value between 1 and 9 in words;
> > a value between 1 and 999 in words; and
> > any int value in words.
> > Hint: The first of those functions makes it easier to write the
second
and
> > writing the second will help write the third.
> > Good solutions may have even more functions.
> >
========================================================================
=
> >
========================================================================
> > I really don't have a clue how to solve these so any help as to what
sort
> of
> > algorithm and java code implementation that I could use, would be
very
> much
> > appreciated.
> >
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