Tim Quit bombarding this distribution list with worthless emails. Most of my day has been spent deleting emails from you that don't ask any programming questions. Its gone too far - GO AWAY.
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:08 AM To: JDJList Subject: [jdjlist] you don't have to be so rude Greg, you dont have to say things like "go away and stop bothering us" and "your questions are trivial" they are not trivial to me I'lkl let you know !!!! This is life and death for me -- because I wasn't sure whether I should give this up altogether which would mean that I would have nothing to fall back on and nothing to hope for the future. Please don't be so rude !!!! A little common decency and respect would go along way for you. You don't need to be so nasty !!!! "go away ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the real wor ld" ? > > Tim, > > I think before you spout off saying nobody uses this language or nobody > uses that language anymore you'd better gets some *real* perspective out > there in the *real world* before commenting on such things... > > Basic is still being used in many shops as Visual Basic 6.0 or the latest > version, Visual Basic .NET so I wouldn't write off that language just yet. > It's also high in M$'s radar as it has always been Mr. Bill's pet language > of choice... > > Pascal still has quite a loyal following in the form of Delphi so I > wouldn't write that one off either. > > You sound like you are very immature for your age... I have had first year > co-ops here at our company who are eager to learn, mostly on their own, > with minimal supervision that crank out code that would make some seasoned > programmers blush... Just because they love to do it! > > You seem to be more scared of failing than actually trying to see if you > can even do it! If you don't have the desire or the hunger to learn > programming then get out now because you'll have a tough job ahead of you > once you do get out in the *real world* as some people on this list have > already alluded to... > > In this job you have to love it because it can be torture to do at times > what with coding all night for hours upon hours straight just to make a > deadline or because you're on to something and it just can't wait until you > get it working! > > For me that's the best rush of all... getting something I have been > labouring at for many hours or days working and until I get the solution to > a tough problem I can't sleep until I solve it. Sleep can wait... I want to > get this thing working tonight! > > That's the hunger that I see you lack... > > Now please go away and stop bothering us all with your fear of the big bad > programming bug... Unless you get off your duff and start hacking away at > it you're never going to get anywhere by bothering other people with your > trivial questions... We just don't have the time for it as our clients > wanted that fantastic new feature that they just can't live without > delivered yesterday! > > Peace and good luck, > Greg. > > > "Tim Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/26/2002 11:00:44 PM > > > Please respond to "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > > > > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the real wor > ld" ? > > > > > Pascal or Basic are not languages that are popular in industry. I doubt > they > are used at all. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark E. Zawadzki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:45 AM > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the real wor > ld" ? > > > > You can get free, legal copies of old Borland products (Turbo Pascal, > Turbo C) from the Borland > > Museum > > http://community.borland.com/museum/ > > > > Try pascal. There are a lot of first programming books in Pascal that you > will find in used book > > stores (*cheeeap*) and public libraries. IMHO, its better than Basic, as > Basic can lure you into > > all kinds of bad habits. > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > No it's not a joke Tim... It's a very common first program for beginers > > > that could apply to any language... Maybe you should start with BASIC. > If > > > you have an old copy of Microsoft's DOS start Qbasic from the command > line > > > and start hacking away. Failing that get an old copy of Visual Basic if > you > > > can such as Ver 3.0 or 4.0... That's the way I started out... With > QBasic, > > > then VB, then C, then C++ and so on to where I am today with Java. > > > > > > Java is fairly easy but you need a sound basis in object oriented > > > programming and the syntax is kind of cryptic... BASIC is more > procedural > > > in nature and the syntax is easier for beginners... That's why it's > called > > > Beginners All Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code. > > > > > > Greg. > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > ===== > > > > Mark Zawadzki Performance Engineer/DBA/Programmer extraordinaire' > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Democracies die behind closed doors," - Judge Damon Keith > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________________________ > > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > ______________________________________________ > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > ______________________________________________ > To change your JDJList options, please visit: > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm ______________________________________________ To change your JDJList options, please visit: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm ____________________________________________________ To change your JDJList options, please visit: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm Save Bandwidth! 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