My favorite (novice to intermediate text) is Eckel's "Thinking in Java", and it beats the D&D cost handsdown, if you d/l it @ http://www.mindview.net/Books/DownloadSites/ --- "Jon D. Hatton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the manual.!! > Hands down the best book for learning Java for the novice on up. > This book is perfect for building a good foundation in the Java language. > I have been using Java for going on 4 years now and this book is > still the best out there.. > > Java How To Program by Deitlel and Deitel > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0131016210/qid=1046185409/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-9604553-8925552 > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:07 AM > To: jdjlist > Subject: [jdjlist] Re: where is the manual ???? > > > From a strictly programming perspective, not too long. Maybe a couple of > weeks. However, I came from a C++ background so that made my transition > easier. My problem was I had been used to using the documentation provided > in MS's Dev Studio which has more information than anyone could ever use. I > was pretty frustrated for a while not because I didn't know the syntax of > the language but because I couldn't find a resource like I was used to using > and I didn't know all the classes available. > > Now I just use the javadocs which provides me with all I need to know. I > still have to hunt around some for a specific class sometimes, but that's > normal. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:52 AM > To: jdjlist > Subject: [jdjlist] Re: where is the manual ???? > > > Just as a question: How long did it take you (for various values of "you") > to gain core competency in Java, where you felt like you could work it > out? At what point would you respectfully suggest that someone may not > have the aptitude for a given language? > > I just wonder because some people seem to have a much harder time getting > a basic grasp of things than others. I don't think they're necessarily > stupid or anything, but... I dunno, I just wonder how long it took people > to learn Java's rudiments. > > Since I'm asking, I'll tell: It took me roughly a week before I was > writing things I considered to be vaguely competent. What I did first was > pretty immature - I'd do a lot better now - but hey. > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Ronald Newton wrote: > > > The API "manual" you download is standard JavaDoc, so it should be easy to > > use or in any case, something you learn to use. > > > > Sound to me as if you need some resources above and beyond the manual. > > > > May I suggest "Learning Java" by Niemeyer and Knudsen. Covers the basics > > and lots of other topics as well. (Yep, it has lots of Swing examples and > a > > CD as well." > > > > Grabbing a new language may be similar to assembling toys on Christmas Eve > > (RTFM, but you better have some basic background as well.) > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ronald Newton > > > > > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to jdjlist as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.sys-con.com/fusetalk > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://enigmastation.com IT Consultant > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to jdjlist as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.sys-con.com/fusetalk > > --- > You are currently subscribed to jdjlist as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.sys-con.com/fusetalk > > --- > You are currently subscribed to jdjlist as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.sys-con.com/fusetalk
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