I agree that knowledge of Swing/AWT is not necessarily "core" to being a
"real" Java programmer. However, after having taught introductory
programming to university students, allowing them to construct visual
components is very beneficial to learning. Many students struggle with basic
programming concepts, and allowing them to do "fun" activities (like setting
the color on a label etc.) keeps them hooked long enough to get over the
initial learning hurdle and move on to tougher topics. Its like a magician
using distraction techniques - look over here at this flashing label while I
actually teach you something important without you noticing ...


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gawron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:19 PM
To: jdjlist
Subject: [jdjlist] Swing vs AWT


Interesting, I got the same requests in my Java classes.  I used to tell my
students that only AWT is covered for 1st level certification and that was
my goal to prep them to become certified Java programmers.

    Steve

-------Original Message-------
From: "M. E. Zawadzki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 02/26/03 12:46 PM
To: jdjlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [jdjlist] Re: where is the manual ????

> 
> I find fault w/ many instructors in that Swing (or AWT) is brought up
*much* too early. I can
infer from Tim that the Swing API is pertinant to what he has me assigned. 
A scientist here (I
work for Merck Pharmaceuticals) is taking a night course in java , and is
pestering  :-) me about
Swing. Note that this is an *introductory* class and it was only the
second week of instruction! 

 

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