Seems to me that ninety-nine times out of a hundred, the printer will be
much slower than the rendering phase used to generate the printed image.
We can all think of exceptions: people printing stuff from a raytracing,
or people who have one of the million-dollar Bull printers will certainly
stand up and yammer about how the printer is SOOOOO NOT SLOWER. Those
people need to sit down and think a bit outside of their own little,
narrow mindsets.

Bottom line: there are certainly going to be outlying cases where you want
the rendering phase to be as optimized for speed as possible. Those people
aren't going to be interested in the WORA capacities of Java as much as
they will be interested in other aspects. Those people *generally* also
know better.

On Fri, 30 May 2003, Paul Franz wrote:

> It is called performance. If you can't tweak Java via platform neutral
> solutions you go platform specific.
>
> Paul Franz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "jdjlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:45 AM
> Subject: [jdjlist] Re: SV: Re: Windows Printing
>
>
> > This is all getting too short sighted for me.  I can't figure out why
> folks
> > are easy about ditching the whole ethos of Java for a quick fix printing
> > thing via Runtime.exec().
> >
> > A quick search on Google (via DMOZ) finds:
> > http://www.accusoft.com/imaging/imagegearjava/igj_description.asp
> >
> > Which also has a printing function.  Write once, run anywhere I think the
> > slogan went?
> >
> > ---
> > Jason Bell
> > J2SE Editor - Java Developers Journal
> > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 30 May 2003 15:24
> > To: jdjlist
> > Subject: [jdjlist] Re: SV: Re: Windows Printing
> >
> >
> > That's okay, though, because nobody uses JPEG or GIF.
> >
> > On Fri, 30 May 2003, Paul Franz wrote:
> >
> > > Also, something that should be mentioned is that earlier versions of
> > Windows
> > > MSPAINT.EXE don't support JPEG or GIF only BMP.
> > >
> > > Paul Franz
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jason Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "jdjlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:20 AM
> > > Subject: [jdjlist] Re: SV: Re: Windows Printing
> > >
> > >
> > > > My basic rule of thumb.
> > > > Never trust the OS to do what you want it to do with Runtime.exec();
> > > >
> > > > Let me put it this way, there has to be a better way....
> > > >
> > > > Jase Bell
> > > >
> > > > Jason Bell
> > > > J2SE Editor - Java Developers Journal
> > > > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: U. Penski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 30 May 2003 11:20
> > > > To: jdjlist
> > > > Subject: [jdjlist] Re: SV: Re: Windows Printing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > [sounding a bit "consultish" again, sorry]
> > > > Jason shouldn't use Postscript to print documents with major image
> > > content,
> > > > if this can be avoided :
> > > > As you might already know Postscript converts images to a text
> > > > representation , like the RichTextFormat (RTF).
> > > > This causes these "ugly" multi-megabyte files mentioned by him.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I looked in WindowsME offline-help for a way to print .ps via
> > the
> > > > command line (or "Runtime.getRuntime().exec..." ).
> > > > Just printing a textdocument via .ps was mentioned resp. found by me:
> > > > "copy con lpt1"
> > > > "showpage"
> > > >
> > > > sincerely,
> > > > U. Penski
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > http://uuhome.de/penski
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Stefan Carlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "jdjlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:08 AM
> > > > Subject: [jdjlist] SV: Re: Windows Printing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jason !
> > > > >
> > > > > I just saw this conversation, and one solution is to use mspaint.exe
> > to
> > > > > make the printing in the background... :)
> > > > >
> > > > > public class Print {
> > > > >     String file = "C:\\WINNT\\SYSTEM32\\mspaint.EXE /p
> > c:\\HTMLRGB.GIF";
> > > > >
> > > > >     public Print() {
> > > > >         try {
> > > > >             Runtime.getRuntime().exec(file);
> > > > >         } catch (IOException e) {
> > > > >             e.printStackTrace();
> > > > >         }
> > > > >     }
> > > > >
> > > > >     public static void main(String[] args) {
> > > > >         new Print();
> > > > >     }
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope it helps !
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Stefan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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