On 3/15/12 4:29 PM, Andrew Hughes wrote: > I noticed you don't seem to have commented on how this breaks the jdk7u > guidelines.
Yeah, I wanted to leave that for a follow up e-mail, i.e. this one. The guidelines unfortunately get b0rken every now and then, in particular when new developers join the project, or straddle the thin red line between whatever deeds they need to do to get their changes through their internal systems, and the things they need to do to get their changes into this Project's forests. My unofficial motto for this Project has been "E pur si muove". [0] Sometimes, that means sending a private mail to the new developer to advise them on the fine print of this Project's guidelines. When Edvard and I drafted the guidelines, that meant putting in enough room to allow retroactive approvals for example, as I expected that someone will every now and then miss following the processes properly before they pushed a useful fix, and I wanted an opportunity to educate such developers on the fine print of the Project's processes without having to penalize them publicly first. All that said, when I see someone struggling with the processes, I try to educate them on it, just not necessarily publicly. For this particular change, when I looked at it before I retroactively approved it, I didn't see anything I'd find objectionable. I understand that you'd find it disappointing that the difference between Oracle JDK and the OpenJDK it's based on isn't always shrinking, but at the same time, I don't find it surprising, in light of what Oracle has said 2010 about continuing to offer its premium offerings, or disturbing, given that Oracle JDK != OpenJDK today. [1] In this case, I found it nice to see more regression tests make their way into OpenJDK - and I appreciate your kind offer in this thread to generalize this new batch to make it work with other providers. Thank you very much for offering to do that. cheers, dalibor topic [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eppur_si_muove [1] http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/173782 -- Oracle <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager Phone: +494089091214 <tel:+494089091214> | Mobile: +491737185961 <tel:+491737185961> Oracle Java Platform Group ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Nagelsweg 55 | 20097 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Kunz Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Astrid Kepper, Val Maher Green Oracle <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment
