On 2/2/13 3:03 AM, Volker Simonis wrote:


On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Phil Race <philip.r...@oracle.com <mailto:philip.r...@oracle.com>> wrote:

        As previously discussed on porters-dev the current target is
        not the first
        JDK 8 release but rather the first non-security update (i.e.
        something like
        JDK 8u2)


    Given the scale and timing, isn't JDK 9 a more appropriate target ?
    The goal of a JDK 8 update 2, *should* be stabilisation, and this
    sounds rather the opposite.
    It also introduces logistic issues like ramping up infrastructure
    which in my experience
    can't solved all that quickly.


Well, the MacOS X port made it into 7u4 and we're of course keen to do it better:)

OSX was a major investment on a lot of fronts. People (dev, sqe, pm) were diverted away from other projects and it was being worked on by Oracle engineers in the os x project for a *long* time before it was integrated. Even then it was rough and close.
And 7u4 was only a developer release. Full support wasn't even claimed then.

So when you even mention the osx port, even with a claim it won't be as bad,
my internal alarm bells start ringing enough to think the actual impact needs
to be assessed.

And there was a time imperative driving that. I'm not sure what the imperative is here.

What do you mean with "ramping up infrastructure":
 - hardware resources (like test/build infrastructure)?
 - human resources within Oracle?
 - human resources within IBM/SAP?

I think we have most of these allocated (except the Oracle part which I can not speak about:)
I mean Oracle since your JEP is clear resources are needed where it says

> We therefore think this JEP needs funding not only from IBM and SAP
> but also from Oracle, in particular so that Oracle engineers in the HotSpot
>and Core Libraries Groups can assist in this effort.

-phil.

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