On 13/02/2013 17:56, Giorgis, Dan (Tridium) wrote:
We currently use a headless J2SE 1.5 JRE in an embedded device.  A smaller 
footprint J2SE Java 8 profile is very attractive to us.  I think this will go a 
long ways to bridging the gap between J2ME capable devices and devices that are 
bigger, but not quite big enough to support a full blown J2SE JRE.

I have a  couple questions regarding package selection for the profiles

1)  We make use of the JavaMail library in our embedded devices.  This requires 
JAF (javax.activation), which in turn requires java.awt.datatransfer.  Has any 
consideration been given to adding the java.awt.datatransfer package to 
compact3 profile?

2) We also use LDAP.  The javax.security.sasl package is not listed in any of 
the profiles, however javax.security.auth.sasl is listed.  Was 
javax.security.sasl deliberately excluded?

At this point in time, the proposal is that compact3 is the full JRE with APIs that comprise the Desktop, CORBA, and Web Services areas omitted. So SASL is there, it's a mistake that it's not listed in JEP (I'll fix that). I don't know if you are building jdk8/profiles but if you are then you'll see it.

Web Services (the main reason that the Java Activation Framework is included in Java SE) is clearly a discussion point as it may be important for some embedded server deployments. Ultimately it's up to the Java SE 8 JSR of course but one could envisage including the web services stack. You are right that this would mean including java.awt.datatransfer to avoid incompatible changes to JAF. The good news is that java.awt.datatransfer doesn't have API dependencies so it can be isolated (with some implementation changes).

As you bring this up then one thing to be aware of is that jdk8 has a new tool jdeps that can be used to look at the static dependencies of applications and libraries. The --profile option will translate those dependencies into a profile (although it's not completely wired up yet as the changes in jdk8/profiles aren't in the main tree yet).

-Alan

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