Hi Craig,

I agree with the proposed change.

Regards Michael

Hi Wes,

On Nov 17, 2005, at 7:23 AM, Wes Biggs wrote:

Quite possibly my foot will soon be in my mouth, but in the PFD 14.6.9, the target expression for count must be "this" or a variable name (well, it says "can" -- am I reading this incorrectly?). If this is truly a restriction, I do not see the relevance of this addition, which only makes sense when talking about counting field expressions or the results of calculations.


I think the description in the specification is too narrow; my mistake.
<spec 14.6.9>
count(<expression>): the count of the number of instances of this expression is returned; the expression can be “this” or a variable name
</spec 14.6.9>

I think it should be

<proposed 14.6.9>
count(<expression>): the count of the number of instances of this expression is returned; the expression is preceded by an optional "distinct" followed by “this”, a navigational expression that terminates in a single-valued field, or a variable name sum(<numeric field expression>): the sum of field expressions is returned; the expression is preceded by an optional "distinct" min(<field expression>): the minimum value of the field expressions is returned; the expression is preceded by an optional "distinct" max(<field expression>): the maximum value of the field expressions is returned; the expression is preceded by an optional "distinct" avg(<numeric field expression>): the average value of all field expressions is returned; the expression is preceded by an optional "distinct"
</proposed 14.6.9>

With the definition as it currently exists, select count(manager) from Employee is not legal, but it certainly should be. It counts the number of employees with non-null managers. And select count(distinct dept.manager) from Employee counts the number of managers.


An edge case to consider: If null values are allowed as primary keys in an object using application identity, the likely SQL "select count(primary_key_column) from my_table" may incorrectly omit a valid instance, meaning that "SELECT COUNT(this) FROM MyClass" returns a different value than Collection.size() when invoked on "SELECT this FROM MyClass". Acceptable?


Primary keys cannot be null. So I don't think this is an issue.

Craig


Wes

Craig L Russell wrote:

Javadogs,

Please comment if you have any issues with the proposal.

Issue 143
H
Treatment of null values in JDOQL COUNT JDOQL currently says nothing about the treatment of null values in the COUNT clause of a query. Based on the SQL treatment, and the fact that JDOQL is intended to be executed by the back end datastore (see below) I propose adding this to the JDOQL chapter:

<proposed>
If null values are aggregated, they do not participate in the aggregate result. If all of the expressions to be aggregated evaluate to null, the result is the same as if there were no instances that match the filter.
</proposed>

The behavior of aggregates is described in Part 2 of the ANSI spec, section 10.9.

1) A null column is excluded from a COUNT( colName ) aggregate. This is described in the section 10.9 under General Rules 4a. The database is supposed to raise a warning: "warning--null value eliminated in set function"

2) Unless you specify the DISTINCT keyword, the COUNT aggregate will not filter out duplicates. Each row, regardless of whether it is a duplicate, will go into the tally. This is described in the same section underGeneral Rules 4b.

For the record, Derby exhibits this ANSI behavior. To summarize:

-- the following query eliminates rows with null in column "a"
select count( a ) from foo;

-- the following query eliminates rows with null in column "a"
-- and eliminates duplicates
select count( distinct a ) from foo;


Craig Russell

Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo

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P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!




Craig Russell

Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo

408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!




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