Hi Ilan,Thanks for this. I've been thinking for a while that JDO is an extension of JPA and this makes sense.
I don't know why the JQuery interface is needed. The query interfaces of JDO and JPA are different enough that I don't know why you would want to mix them.
Craig On Oct 7, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Ilan Kirsh wrote:
Hi all,Following is an enhancement suggestion for JDO 2.1 (or maybe even for JDO 2.01?) that may give maximum results in minimum effort.I suggest to add four new interfaces to javax.jdo (or to a sub package):public interface JEntityManagerFactory extendsjavax.persistence.EntityManagerFactory, javax.jdo.PersistenceManagerFactory{ } public interface JEntityManager extends javax.persistence.EntityManager, javax.jdo.PersistenceManager { } public interface JEntityTransaction extends javax.persistence.EntityTransaction, javax.jdo.Transaction { } public interface JQuery extends javax.persistence.Query, javax.jdo.Query { }JDO 2.1 Implementations that will support the new optional "javax.jdo.option.JPA" feature will have to return instances of these interfaces instead of the super interfaces when using either the JDO API or the JPA API.For instance, a JDO 2.1 implementation with JPA 1.0 support will support datastore transactions (currently only optimistic transactions are supported by JPA):EntityManagerFactory emf = Persistence.createEntityManagerFactory("myUnit");EntityManager em = emf.createEntityManager(); ((JEntityTransaction)em.getTransaction()).setOptimistic(false);And will support using Extent (no Extent in JPA and I think that there is no support for filtering subclasses, at least not in an easy way):EntityManagerFactory emf = Persistence.createEntityManagerFactory("myUnit");EntityManager em = emf.createEntityManager(); Extent extent = ((JEntityManager)em).getExtent(MyClass, false); As well as many other things that are missing in JPA, for example: boolean isDirty = JDOHelper.isDirty(entity);EntityManager em = (EntityManager) JDOHelper.getPersistenceManager(entity);These examples are for using JPA with JDO extensions which I think is more interesting. Of course, similar examples can be written also for the other direction (using JPA from JDO).The names of the new four interfaces is based on the JPA interface names in a way that may suggest that they are more powerful. Which do you consider more powerful AWT Frame, Panel and Button or Swing JFrame, JPanel and JButton? If JPA will catch then every curious Java developer will soon know that there is EntityManager but there is also JEntityManager that supports additional operations and unlike Hibernate or TopLink extensions is supported by many vendors and backed by a standard! I agree with David that some day the majority of the JPA implementations might be also JDO implementations. In that case, JEntityManagerFactory, JEntityManager, JEntityTransaction, JQuery, JDOHelper and Extent may be something significant that cannot be ignored in the JPA market.The minimum that is required in order to support this addition in JDO 2.1 is:- Adding the four new interfaces.- Adding "javax.jdo.option.JPA" to the specification with a short explanation.Actually the maximum is not so far from the minimum:- New section in the specification that explains this addition with more details and maybe some examples. - Handling possible conflicts (e,g, which exceptions are thrown JDO or JPA?). - TCK tests that check that an implementation that claims to support "javax.jdo.option.JPA" indeed returns instances of the new four interfaces.Of course, no need to describe the JPA in the JDO spec or write JPA tests because all this is already handled by the EJB 3 spec.Accepting this suggestion will enable using JDO in two modes:1. Standalone (for current users as well as for new users that are interested).2. As an extension to JPA (might be very useful if JPA will catch). Any comments will be welcomed. Regards, Ilan Kirsh ObjectDB Software http://www.objectdb.com
Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
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