I agree. After reading only the header of every option I though that 3 is the 
best and 1 is the worst, but after reading the cons of 2 and 3 it seems that 1 
is the only feasible option. I am afraid that plans for 6-8 months might 
eventually take much longer and because the project is under resourced the 
amount of work should be a main consideration. Adding support for sub queries 
for existing users of JDK 1.4 is a minor issue IMO, that might be resolved as 
an extension to JDO 2.01 by vendors that are interested.

Ilan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wesley Biggs 
  To: JDO Expert Group 
  Cc: Apache JDO project 
  Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] JDO 2.1 maintenance release


   -- Users want 1.5 features ASAP
   -- Vendors need to support existing customers who cannot upgrade to 1.5

  I suggest:
   -- Target the maintenance release against 1.5 only (option 1 below).  Update 
the TCK to require 1.5 only.
   -- Allow vendors to backport JDO 2.1 changes from ChangeLog (not 
ChangeLog15) to their own JAR distribution for JDK versions < 1.5.

  Pros: benefits of option 1 as laid out by Craig
  Cons: no such thing as being certified as JDO 2.1 compliant against JDK <= 
1.4.x.  But I don't think this really matters to users.

  Wes


  Craig L Russell wrote: 
    Javadogs, 


    Please refer to http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/ChangeLog and 
http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/ChangeLog15


    It's time to decide the broad outline of the JDO 2 maintenance release. I 
have put into the ChangeLogs all the features that I know of that we have 
discussed including. If there are any missing items, please reply.


    One rather large decision is whether to require JDK 1.5 for the release. I 
think there are three options, since part of the change requires JDK 1.5: 
annotations, Enum, and signature changes for generics.


    1. Require JDK 1.5 for the 2.1 maintenance release.


    Pro: Least amount of work for everyone. Easiest to explain, package, and 
document.


    Con: All the users who want the features of JDO 2.1 and can't move to JDK 
1.5 (actually, the only significant feature that doesn't require 1.5 is 
subqueries).


    2. Split the current maintenance release into two maintenance releases. Do 
the first maintenance release with no JDK 1.5 changes, and follow up in six 
months with another release that includes the 1.5 content.


    Pro: Users get subqueries without going to JDK 1.5


    Con: No annotation, enum, or JPA support for another 6 to 8 months


    3. Split the maintenance release into two parts, one of which only requires 
JDK 1.3, and the other part which requires 1.5. Ship two sets of jar files for 
at least the api20 jar and tck20 jar, with different dependencies. 


    Pro: Users get exactly what they want, and only have a dependency on 1.5 if 
they want to use 1.5 features


    Con: A lot more work, harder to package, document, and use, more maven 
dependencies, more packages and jar files. The project is under-resourced to do 
this in a timely way.


    Please let me know which of these options you are willing to help with.


    Craig Russell

    Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo

    408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

    P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!




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