On 18 Aug 2008, at 03:25, Jedy Wang wrote:

> On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 12:03 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
>> I don't understand the value in not having devhelp in the default
>> menus.  I think we should add this to our UI spec rather than
>> removing it from the menu.
>>
>> I don't feel strongly about whether ghex should be removed or not.
>> I think if we remove it, we should remove it from both Nevada and
>> OpenSolaris, not just OpenSolaris.
> Devhelp is not removed. It's hidden. I am not sure why but according  
> to
> our UI spec, Developer Tools menu entry and all its children are  
> hidden.

Ok, so we're running into some Nevada v. OpenSolaris spec issues again  
here, I think :/

The Developer Tools menu item, and all its children, are only "hidden"  
in 2008.11 because none of the applications on the menu are included  
on the LiveCD (as noted directly under the "Applications Menu").  Or  
at least, they weren't in 2008.05.

However, the spec also shows where we expect those items (and some  
others) to appear, if the user were to download those applications  
from pkg.opensolaris.org.  I now realise this was a bad idea, and I  
understand why it's confusing the effort to implement the 2008.11  
spec.  So, first thing in the morning, I'll strip out all those  
confusing entries (perhaps moving them to a separate section) to make  
things clearer.

To summarise: Jedy, to implement the 2008.11 spec, you shouldn't have  
to modify the .desktop files of any applications that are not included  
on the LiveCD.  (Unfortunately, of course, the contents of the 2008.11  
LiveCD haven't been finalised yet, so this is a slightly moving target.)

Thanks,
Calum.

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