I used eclipse to generate against svn. Will have to inspect in more detail
later...



sent from my htc, forgive typos please !
On Oct 11, 2011 8:08 AM, "Paolo Castagna" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
> first of all, thank you for your patch.
> I had a quick look, but I did not try to apply it (yet).
>
> May I ask how you created your patch?
>
> We added a section on the Getting Involved page on the Jena website:
>
>  "Patches should be attached to issues in Jira (click on
>  More Actions > Attach Files). To create a patch you can simply
>  use the command:
>
>    svn diff > JENA-XYZ.patch
>
>  Please, inspect your patch and make sure it includes all (and only)
>  the relevant changes for a single issue. Don't forget tests! If you
>  want to test if a patch applies cleanly you can use:
>
>    patch -p0 < JENA-XYZ.patch
>
>  If you use Eclipse: right click on the project name in Package Explorer,
>  select Team > Create Patch or Team > Apply Patch."
>
> -
> http://jena.staging.apache.org/jena/getting_involved/#submit_your_patches
>
>
> It really helps if a patch contains only the lines you added|removed
> and it applies cleanly. It saves a lot of time and speed-up reviewing
> it.
>
> Your patch may be perfectly fine, but I wanted to take the opportunity
> to send the message across.
>
> I am really curious to run a few benchmarks when it's done to compare
> MonetDB with a more traditional SQL system.
>
> By the way, about benchmarks Andy is (secretely) working on this:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jena/Experimental/JenaPerf/trunk/
> I have not time to try it yet, but it seems very interesting. :-)
>
> Thank you again for the new interesting feature.
>
> Paolo
>
>
> nat lu wrote:
> > Added, with patch file, at
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-134
> >
> >
> > I have made no more progress on testing it out other than sdbconfig so
> > far, hope too soon.
> >
> >
> > On 09/09/11 16:43, Paolo Castagna wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> why don't you open a new JIRA issue (as a New Feature) for this?
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA
> >>
> >> You can then attach a patch to it. This way others can look at what
> >> you have done so far (and maybe help you out).
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help,
> >> Paolo
> >>
> >> nat lu wrote:
> >>> I made a start, and tried to use one of the existing flavours, but
> ended
> >>> up creating one for MonetDB - combination of derby and DB2. It doesnt
> >>> like longs or unbounded varchars.
> >>>
> >>> So, I got as far as getting SDBConfig to complete, but havent done an
> >>> sdbload yet
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 09/09/11 10:37, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 04/09/11 13:03, nat lu wrote:
> >>>>> I'm going to give it a go sometime soon and report back on my
> >>>>> non-scientific findings. Your point about the small number of
> >>>>> columns is
> >>>>> well made, but the research paper cited earlier also mentions this
> and
> >>>>> reports that because of column store optimisations even when they
> >>>>> vertically partitioned their data rather than using a property-table
> >>>>> approach they still saw good improvement. However, again, I'm no
> >>>>> column
> >>>>> store expert so perhaps I'm missing some point here :-). Anyway,
> >>>>> time to
> >>>>> "suck it and see@, all in the name of progress of course.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 03/09/11 16:29, David Jordan wrote:
> >>>>>> I have not used a column-oriented database, but I am somewhat
> >>>>>> familiar
> >>>>>> with them. My understanding of them is that the storage is
> >>>>>> partitioned
> >>>>>> on a column basis, such that there is no physical clustering
> together
> >>>>>> of all the columns for a given row. An advantage of this would be in
> >>>>>> the case where you have tables with many columns, but the particular
> >>>>>> application only needs a small subset of columns.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> With the SDB representation of triples (3 columns) and quads (4
> >>>>>> columns), and access typically based on having a specific value for
> >>>>>> one or two of the columns, I am not so sure that a column-based
> >>>>>> approach would offer any advantage.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But again, I am no expert on these types of databases.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> These discussions about alternative datastore representations
> RDF/OWL
> >>>>>> data are very useful, to gain better understanding of which data
> >>>>>> architectures yield the best implementation approach for
> >>>>>> high-performance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> p.s. I Monet provides support for JDBC, I would not think much
> effort
> >>>>>> is needed to support in with SDB.
> >>>> Shouldn't be too hard :-)  SDB targets SQL-92 and there are a few
> >>>> extension points to cope with the vagaries of different SQL engines.
> >>>> It's one of the reasons there are ~10 small files to write, to capture
> >>>> the uniqueness of each SQL syntax.
> >>>>
> >>>>      Andy
> >
>

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